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Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:47 pm to NIH
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:47 pm to NIH
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and especially this one where we will likely surpass or match your best year, there is no reason for us to go the other way either.
I did like this comment though, it's baseball you're not gonna be up there every year.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:49 pm to Cornelius
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Only difference is that Van Horn has been to Omaha four more times than Cohen.
Useless stats
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:50 pm to Woopigsooie20
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it's baseball you're not gonna be up there every year.
No, but our talent level is rising every year so we should be a lot more consistent in these next few years than in the past.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:52 pm to NIH
DVH's best year at Arkansas was 46 total wins. Cohen is currently at 50 wins at MSU against the #4 overall SOS.
One more win and this is no real discussion.
One more win and this is no real discussion.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:53 pm to NIH
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Right, I'm just saying coming in here to convince us that Van Horn is better is pretty dumb.
I don't need to convince anybody, all you gotta do is look at their resumes.
DVH has been a D-1 HC two years longer than Cohen and has almost 270 more wins.
Both coached and won two conference titles at Northwestern St, both then went on to take over bad programs(Nebraska and Kentucky).
Those tenures went much different though.
DVH has been to 15 straight regionals, I don't know where that stands nationally, but I doubt Cohen ever touches that.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:55 pm to engie
Well hell guys, let's just hope DVH can get 50 wins each year then frick everything else.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:56 pm to engie
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DVH's best year at Arkansas was 46 total wins. Cohen is currently at 50 wins at MSU against the #4 overall SOS.
Ok.
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One more win and this is no real discussion.
Wow
Once again, one year =/= career.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:57 pm to Woopigsooie20
Jesus, I'm not saying Cohen is better. I'm simply saying coming in here to prove us wrong or that we should rather DVH is retarded considering the circumstances. Van Horn has had a great tenure-no denying that. He's a proven good manager. OTOH, Cohen has just hit his stride at State in the past few years with the talent level rising in each one. The future is ahead of us and history could be made in a week.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:58 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Once again, one year =/= career
lolno
*IF Cohen wins the CWS there is no discussion. Sorry.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:01 pm to Woopigsooie20
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I did like this comment though, it's baseball you're not gonna be up there every year.
True. But the fact of the matter that people are choosing to overlook is that we're not even "up" yet.
Did you misunderstand that THIS MSU team was recruited during the darkest times in the history of our baseball program -- with a former coach sabotaging our efforts from behind the scenes, a split/pissed off fanbase, etc?
Did you miss the fact that our 3 best MLB arm talents are currently not throwing for us -- at least 2 of which will be back next year? We're literally doing this with one starting pitcher.
Did you miss the fact that we've got a 6'5 highschooler coming that went from 84-85 as a soph -- to 89-91 as a jr -- to 96 as a sr -- with the body type and arm action to throw 100?
No -- the overall talent level on our team is NOWHERE NEAR what it's about to become in the next couple of years... If we keep developing how we have with this group, how good we can be is about to become downright scary.
But hey -- make fun of me -- everyone did when I said WE ARE BACK before the season this year -- and that's going to make for some tremendous bumps when this little run of ours finally ends.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:03 pm to NIH
Gene Chizik won a national title.
Better HC than Bobby Petrino?
Better HC than Bobby Petrino?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:03 pm to Quicksilver
Not that I don't think Cohen's a great coach. Just a little young in his career to anoint him.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:10 pm to engie
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True. But the fact of the matter that people are choosing to overlook is that we're not even "up" yet.
Did you misunderstand that THIS MSU team was recruited during the darkest times in the history of our baseball program -- with a former coach sabotaging our efforts from behind the scenes, a split/pissed off fanbase, etc?
Did you miss the fact that our 3 best MLB arm talents are currently not throwing for us -- at least 2 of which will be back next year? We're literally doing this with one starting pitcher.
Did you miss the fact that we've got a 6'5 highschooler coming that went from 84-85 as a soph -- to 89-91 as a jr -- to 96 as a sr -- with the body type and arm action to throw 100?
No -- the overall talent level on our team is NOWHERE NEAR what it's about to become in the next couple of years... If we keep developing how we have with this group, how good we can be is about to become downright scary.
But hey -- make fun of me -- everyone did when I said WE ARE BACK before the season this year -- and that's going to make for some tremendous bumps when this little run of ours finally ends.
If anybody has missed these items then they certainly haven't read this thread, as you have repeated these same things at least 4 times.
It is time for a new act.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:11 pm to Quicksilver
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Gene Chizik won a national title.
Better HC than Bobby Petrino?
That does seem to be the logic of this thread.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:12 pm to Woopigsooie20
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DVH has been a D-1 HC two years longer than Cohen and has almost 270 more wins.
You can't count. Typical Arky fan I guess.
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Both coached and won two conference titles at Northwestern St, both then went on to take over bad programs(Nebraska and Kentucky).
LOL no. DVH took over for a 20 year coach at Nebraska that went 767-453-1. That was a well-established successful baseball program. Cohen took over a baseball program that went 713-602-5 in the 24 years prior. That's a big arse difference.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:14 pm to Marty McFrat
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Well hell guys, let's just hope DVH can get 50 wins each year then frick everything else.
Yeah, that's what we're saying. We aren't still trying to win one of two in order to play for a national title or anything...
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:18 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Gene Chizik won a national title.
Better HC than Bobby Petrino?
That does seem to be the logic of this thread.
There's the "Arky-out" right there...
Cohen is still not that good -- see -- Chizik won a title!!1!1 DVH is better!1!1
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:19 pm to Cornelius
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If anybody has missed these items then they certainly haven't read this thread, as you have repeated these same things at least 4 times.
It is time for a new act.
I wouldn't have to repeat if you geniuses could read and comprehend.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:22 pm to engie
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Cohen is still not that good -- see -- Chizik won a title!!1!1 DVH is better!1!1
Truth hurts.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:23 pm to TheCheshireHog
The guy whose school hasn't won a NC since 1941 keeps trying to convince us page after page that his baseball team is gonna be the next powerhouse for decades to come. Dude, why not just relax and enjoy your teams moment in the sun? Believe it or not most of us are actually happy for ya'll and are pulling for the bulldogs to take home their first Championship since the beginning of WWII. No reason to be stressing out on a message board and acting all insecure.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 11:25 pm
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