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re: Ranking the SEC Veterinary Schools

Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:39 pm to
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Years before anyone in my family ever attended AU my fathers horse became very ill. The vet who was a UGA grad told my grandfather to take the horse to AU if he wanted the horse to live. TIFWIW. aTm has a very good vet school as well


How long ago and how long was the drive to each school from this location? Nobody would tell you to drive past Athens to get to Auburn for an Equine case. But if you lived in Columbus, and you are an hour from Auburn and 3+ hours from Athens, that would make sense.
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:41 pm to
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Anywhere from $60k to $1 million.


You typed all that just to give him the answer he was looking for at the end
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:41 pm to
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You get good pay for a relatively low stress practice. So I wonder why the suicide rate is so high?


Everyone hates coming to see you.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45554 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Everyone hates coming to see you.


Yeah but that doesn't seem like enough, especially now that dentists have gotten a lot better at doing what they do without the excruciating pain they'd have to inflict in the past. And if we're honest everyone hates lawyers, mechanics, CPAs, and plumbers too. Pretty much any occupation where you're paying someone a lot of money for something you don't want to have to do in the first place but know you have to/need their services.
Posted by Dawgvet
Woodstock
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:52 pm to
Since the subject of suicide has come up. Veterinarian’s do have a high rate of suicide. The way it was explained to me was because we perform euthanasias almost on a daily basis, some Vets just consider suicide “a next step”. Euthanasia solution is readily available to us, so it is a very common way to attempt suicide.
As small/close as the Vet community is, it is unfortunate that some don’t reach out for help.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9772 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:57 pm to
Kentucky gets Auburns ranking by default. Kentucky has an agreement with Auburn to send a certain number of their kids to Vet School at Auburn.

PS: first time I saw LSU’s Vet School I knew the building was modeled exactly after Auburns.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15728 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:00 pm to
I think there is only one or 2 vet schools in Texas, and we’ve always been one. Do a lot of schools in the SEC have them or just the ag schools?
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:02 pm to
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Since the subject of suicide has come up. Veterinarian’s do have a high rate of suicide. The way it was explained to me was because we perform euthanasias almost on a daily basis, some Vets just consider suicide “a next step”. Euthanasia solution is readily available to us, so it is a very common way to attempt suicide.
As small/close as the Vet community is, it is unfortunate that some don’t reach out for help.


I was thinking along similar lines regarding vets. Most vets love animals and having to euthanize them, especially family pets, would take an enormous toll. And what you said makes sense that euthanasia being treated so differently with animals would change the way you think about suicide as an option for ending suffering, at least a little bit.

MDs and Police officers also make sense - those are super stressful jobs for obvious reasons. I just don't see the link with dentists beyond long hours and the usual worries most professions have.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12307 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:11 pm to
I don’t think distance was what I was implying here. They would have driven to Texas A&M if that’s what needed to happen to save the horse’s life
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:17 pm to
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Dawgvet


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Even though I’m an UGA Vet school graduate, Cornell and Cal-Davis are considered the top Vet schools in our field. All schools tend to have a “specialty”. Neonatal equine medicine- Florida (due to the proximity to Ocala) Cancer research/treatment- Cornell Transfers portal injuries - A& M



How did this get overlooked.

Well done sir
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:39 pm to
First off whoever said stress-free job has no F’n clue. At least pediatricians sign up to deal with parents and get paid to do so. Vets just get constantly yelled at for charging anything to save the member of the family. And the vast majority of vets don’t make a ton of money. Starting salaries have come up, but that is just because newly graduated vets have a ton of loans to pay back.

With the incursion of corporate medicine into vet world, the only millionaires are the late baby boomers/early gen-exers who were lucky enough to go to get school when it was still relatively dirt cheap, then owned practices when people started being more willing to spend money in pets, and then sold those practices to the corporate overlords willing to overpay. While specialists are making mid to upper 6 figures (though they also lose earning years to internship and residencies), the vast majority of practicing vets probably make between 100k-200k. And you are often working 10-13 hr days.

Only the partners of the big equine places are making a huge amount of money. And they do that by damn near killing the associate vets, much like law practices. Just look up the Hagyard scandal a few years back.

I doubt there is any bad vet school out there. And the less prestigious ones which might have fewer residents and interns are probably letting the students do more hands on which in turn means they are graduating a far more confident and experienced vet.

Cornell is a weird semi private, semi public school. Also not the only Ivy League vet school as UPenn has a vet school as well.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Dawgvet
Woodstock
Member since Sep 2012
574 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:48 pm to
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I doubt there is any bad vet school out there.


I agree, I have worked with and or dealt with many vets (small animal) from different schools and they are all quite competent.
We do have an Auburn grad in the practice and we jokingly tell him he is our “affirmative action hire” though, since the rest of us are UGA grads.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73951 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:57 pm to
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Since the subject of suicide has come up. Veterinarian’s do have a high rate of suicide. The way it was explained to me was because we perform euthanasias almost on a daily basis, some Vets just consider suicide “a next step”. Euthanasia solution is readily available to us, so it is a very common way to attempt suicide.
As small/close as the Vet community is, it is unfortunate that some don’t reach out for help.


My wife is class of 2017 UGA. Two of that class has already offed themselves. It is real and it is sad.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19690 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:57 pm to
^^^^^^^^All this.

Married to a vet for 30 years.

The stress of dealing with irate/distraught owners - most of whom are directly responsible for their pets’ problems but refuse to admit it - has always been present in the profession. But the last 2+ years have been particularly brutal, as people’s behavior have deteriorated thanks to the pandemic/politics.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73951 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I don’t think distance was what I was implying here. They would have driven to Texas A&M if that’s what needed to happen to save the horse’s life


Thanks for your paw paw's anecdote from 1974. US News and World Report will take this under advisement.
Posted by lastfan
Houston
Member since Nov 2015
8678 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:03 pm to
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Since the subject of suicide has come up. Veterinarian’s do have a high rate of suicide. The way it was explained to me was because we perform euthanasias almost on a daily basis, some Vets just consider suicide “a next step”. Euthanasia solution is readily available to us, so it is a very common way to attempt suicide. As small/close as the Vet community is, it is unfortunate that some don’t reach out for help

Man, that’s messed up, but it makes sense. The practice becomes normalized.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28302 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Bunch of people who weren’t good enough to be a doctor lol



Vet school is infinitely harder to get into than medical school except under affirmative action.
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
3200 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:55 pm to
I know at least 2 doctors who both left vet school for med school. The internal med guy said "you only have one to study in med school". I agree, some doctors really aren't that smart.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15728 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:01 pm to
There isn’t affirmative action at A&M. They take nerds who commit to a hard degree to begin with. If you told me those grads are making less than 100k for what their degree costs, the level of difficulty, etc, I’d say your crazy, but the guys here say vets don’t make much, which I find hard to believe still
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73951 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:02 pm to
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There isn’t affirmative action at A&M. They take nerds who commit to a hard degree to begin with. If you told me those grads are making less than 100k for what their degree costs, the level of difficulty, etc, I’d say your crazy, but the guys here say vets don’t make much, which I find hard to believe still


If you do cats and dogs in a mid-major market in a nice affluent neighborhood, and you work your arse off and contemplate suicide from time to time, your ceiling is about $165k.
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