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re: Ranking the SEC baseball coaches
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:42 pm to rockiee
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:42 pm to rockiee
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List achievements of all and let that be the deciding factor. I even said H2H can apply when its really close
Well, all these favor PM anyway lol.
The real issue is the troll OP listing the MSU coach 2nd
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:43 pm to Wild Thang
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Well, all these favor PM anyway lol.
And if someone wanted to make that argument, I would no say anything against
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The real issue is the troll OP listing the MSU coach 2nd
Don't disagree there, thats why it was my first post
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:43 pm to joshua2571
Sully should be #1. Corbin has a huge advantage over the rest by not only having 11.7 scholarships. Corbin is good and probably 2 or 3 but he’s got an advantage no other SEC school has
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:46 pm to lsufball19
Ok. Manieri is a very good coach. Probably fourth on my list. I’d still have Van Horn higher ranked. LSU is the best job in the sport. Arkansas s a mediocre job with a very limited in state talent pool. Van Horn would dominate at LSU.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:48 pm to VivaZapata27
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I’d still have Van Horn higher ranked.
based on what exactly?
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LSU is the best job in the sport.
meh. this isn't the 90s anymore where LSU and State are the only programs in the South to care
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Arkansas s a mediocre job
You realize that beautiful ballpark was built a bit before DVH stepped foot on campus and that Arkansas went to the CWS 4 times in the late 70s through the 80s right? The reality is, DVH is a solid coach but always a bridesmaid never a bride. Been that way his entire coaching career. If he wasn't, one of these programs you view as better than mediocre would have hired him by now.This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:48 pm to joshua2571
It’s just baseball so I feel like I can be objective when I say that I’d take Van Horn above the everyone else. He’s done an incredible job.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:50 pm to MoonMoon2020
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Childress too high.
Time for a change!
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:52 pm to lsufball19
Mediocre by SEC standards. In state talent t is very average. They do have a very advantageous border states scholarship program but they cannot compare to LSU’s brand or in state and local talent pool.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:53 pm to lsufball19
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DVH is a solid coach but always a bridesmaid never a bride. Been that way his entire coaching career.
Would that be the case if he could stack his roster every year the way LSU and Vandy can? I think he’d have a ton of rings at either school.
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:56 pm to VivaZapata27
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Mediocre by SEC standards
By SEC standards, Arkansas is a top 5 program at worst
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In state talent t is very average.
this isn't football. And Missouri, one of the best baseball states in the country, is right next door without any college programs who give a shite.
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but they cannot compare to LSU’s brand or in state and local talent pool.
LSU being a better brand does not make DVH a better coach. You cannot just ignore everything else because LSU is a better job than Arkansas. DVH has been at Arkansas 20 years now. LSU wasn't always a destination job. DVH has had ample time to build that at Arkansas. If he was the best coach in the league, he would have by now. He hasn't because he isn't.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:57 pm to VivaZapata27
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I think he’d have a ton of rings at either school.
stop thinking too hard.
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Would that be the case if he could stack his roster every year the way LSU and Vandy can?
Is this what litte brother programs do? Look at the lack of accomplishments and come up with nonsensical arguments that you have to ignore all quantifiable measurements because the jobs are better/worse? So we're left with your gut feeling on things using hypotheticals?
"I know Vandy was the worst program in league history before Corbin got there, but now that he's built Vandy into the best program, it's not fair to compare them to Arkansas because...reasons"
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:58 pm to lsufball19
That Arkansas is a top program in a mediocre situation is kinda the point.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:00 pm to VivaZapata27
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That Arkansas is a top program in a mediocre situation is kinda the point.
That you think they're in a mediocre situation tells me all I need to know about how much you actually know what you're talking about
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:24 pm to Wild Thang
Lemonis' team is currently ranked ahead of 4 out of the top 5 coaches. He's kept State in the top 10 and in Omaha since he's been there. He also won at Indiana and helped build Louisville into what it is. The troll may be on to something.
Manieri and Bianco should be higher, they are just burned out. O'sullivan is waaaaay too high, he would be a big waste of space except he's a midget. Butch Thompson will get in top 5 if a bigger program grabs him.
Manieri and Bianco should be higher, they are just burned out. O'sullivan is waaaaay too high, he would be a big waste of space except he's a midget. Butch Thompson will get in top 5 if a bigger program grabs him.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:44 pm to VivaZapata27
That statement a bout the instate talent being bad in Arkansas was true 20 years ago. He relied on out of state players to field his teams in his early days because the state of Arkansas didn't develop baseball players.
Now just recently, he has 13-15 Arkansans on his team which is the most he ever had. The reason why is because high school baseball erupted in popularity here.
Now just recently, he has 13-15 Arkansans on his team which is the most he ever had. The reason why is because high school baseball erupted in popularity here.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:09 am to lsufball19
It took him 20 years to make Arkansas where they are today. He didn't inherit a good situation. Arkansas was not good in baseball at all back in the 90s.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:13 am to Sparetime
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Lemonis' team is currently ranked ahead of 4 out of the top 5 coaches. He's kept State in the top 10 and in Omaha since he's been there. He also won at Indiana and helped build Louisville into what it is. The troll may be on to something. Manieri and Bianco should be higher, they are just burned out. O'sullivan is waaaaay too high, he would be a big waste of space except he's a midget. Butch Thompson will get in top 5 if a bigger program grabs him
Lmao. The state maroon burns it you a little too deep.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:17 am to Sparetime
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Lemonis' team is currently ranked ahead of 4 out of the top 5 coaches. He's kept State in the top 10 and in Omaha since he's been there. He also won at Indiana and helped build Louisville into what it is. The troll may be on to something. Manieri and Bianco should be higher, they are just burned out. O'sullivan is waaaaay too high, he would be a big waste of space except he's a midget. Butch Thompson will get in top 5 if a bigger program grabs him
Lemonis has nothing to do with building Louisville. That was all Dan McDonell and that program hasn’t fallen off any.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:20 am to joshua2571
Spot on for Bianco...
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:24 am to dchog
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It took him 20 years to make Arkansas where they are today.
No it didn't. He won the SEC and made it to Omaha in year 2.
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He didn't inherit a good situation
See above. He either inherited a good situation or hasn't need 20 years to build Arkansas into a good program. Look, he's a solid coach, but y'all need to quit making excuses at to why he hasn't ever taken the next step in 20 years. He has plenty of resources and has for a long, long time
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