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re: Ranking the SEC after Week 2
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:00 am to Robert Duval
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:00 am to Robert Duval
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don't see how...well, lemme put it like this. I think OM has a higher ceiling, offensively. When they are clicking on all 8 cylinders, they are more deadly than Auburn on its best day.
This is a fair point. At this point in the season, it's hard not to rank teams based on potential rather than actual performances.
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:02 am to PearlJam
What I think is known is this:
Tier 1: Bama
Tier 2 in no particular order:
UT
LSU
UF
OM
Ark
AU
UGA
TAMU
Tier 3 in no particular order:
USC
MSU
Vandy
Mizzou
Tier 4: UK
Tier 1: Bama
Tier 2 in no particular order:
UT
LSU
UF
OM
Ark
AU
UGA
TAMU
Tier 3 in no particular order:
USC
MSU
Vandy
Mizzou
Tier 4: UK
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:04 am to Robert Duval
That's about right. It gets hard to put them in a particular order right now. I think the op's list was fair and reasonable. People get too butthurt these days over reasonable, but differing opinions.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:08 am to BHMKyle
At the very least, swap Arky-UGA and swap UT-Barn. Then the list is passable I suppose. But as it is now, it's just awful.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:09 am to Robert Duval
quote:
What I think is known is this:
Tier 1: Bama
Tier 2 in no particular order:
UT
LSU
UF
OM
Ark
AU
UGA
TAMU
Tier 3 in no particular order:
USC
MSU
Vandy
Mizzou
Tier 4: UK
Seems accurate enough
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:10 am to BHMKyle
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So which is better? A 6-point loss to Clemson or a tie at the end of regulation to TCU.
The dumbest thing I've read in a while. Congratulations.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:11 am to BHMKyle
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So which is better? A 6-point loss to Clemson or a tie at the end of regulation to TCU. I think Clemson is far better than TCU.
Lets completely throw out where they were played.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:13 am to JoJoDolphinus
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That TCU win was impressive, i've got the hogs as the #3 sec team so-far
RUSHING YARDS
TCU- 195
Arkansas- 180
RUSHING YARDS/PLAY
TCU- 6.09
Arkansas- 4.19
PASSING YARDS
TCU- 377
Arkansas- 223
PASSING COMPLETION
TCU- 64.3%
Arkansas- 58.3%
TOTAL YARDS
TCU- 572
Arkansas- 403
TOTAL YARDS PER PLAY
TCU- 6.36
Arkansas- 5.60
The difference in the game was TCU's two turnovers... one of which occurred because of a blatant facemask not called against Arkansas... and penalties. The Hogs will not always have the benefit of officials missing facemasks and opponent QB's hurting their team with thuggish mistakes.
Glad Arkansas won this one for the SEC, but based on the few minutes of the game I watched, as well as the stats for the game, TCU outplayed them in most every area of the game.
This makes two games in a row that Arkansas has been outgained by its opponent by nearly a yard every single play. On the season, Arkansas is now being outgained by 1.03 yards each and every play... good enough for last place in the SEC. Considering they've yet to get to the meat of the schedule, this is a major problem.
Arkansas is not in the top half of the league.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:15 am to BHMKyle
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but based on the few minutes of the game I watched
Well that actually explains everything.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:15 am to PearlJam
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I think the op's list was fair and reasonable. People get too butthurt these days over reasonable, but differing opinions.
You just painted a very accurate picture of one very insecure fan base.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:18 am to BHMKyle
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Glad Arkansas won this one for the SEC, but based on the few minutes of the game I watched, as well as the stats for the game, TCU outplayed them in most every area of the game.
We were up 13-0 at half and 20-7 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. If you call that TCU outplaying us you might legitimately be mentally handicapped. Maybe you should actually watch the entire game before making up things to fit your narrative.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:19 am to BHMKyle
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You just painted a very accurate picture of one very insecure fan base.
I really don't find it surprising that every time I've noticed you being defended it's by Auburn fans. Twats of a feather stick together.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:21 am to BHMKyle
So now we aren't allowed to respond because pointing out flaws in your reasoning makes us insecure
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:26 am to BHMKyle
UGA ahead of UF and Arkansas?
Not even gonna bother commenting on the rest.
Not even gonna bother commenting on the rest.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:27 am to Porcine Human
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We were up 13-0 at half and 20-7 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. If you call that TCU outplaying us you might legitimately be mentally handicapped.
And at the end of the quarter, down by 13 points, TCU had still outgained Arkansas by nearly 100 yards and was also outgaining them in yards per play.
You may be mentally handicapped if you truly believe it was all Hog domination through 3 quarters if your team is being outgained by 100 yards.
The no-call on the facemask was literally the difference in the game at that point. TCU was driving towards a score, and the facemask that caused a fumble was not called.
If you truly can't see the red flags going up right now for your team, it will make the fall that much harder to take. Good luck.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:32 am to Robert Duval
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Well...in the first half. I don't think it was the dominant performance against JSU that they were hoping for. They benched their starting QB and the replacement was 6 for 14 with a pick and a fumble.
LSU went into halftime with a 17 point lead against a team that should have beat auburn last year. They benched their starting QB because he was god awful in the opening game and opening drive of game 2, and their backup came out and played nicely. I don't see how you think LSU struggled versus JSU.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:35 am to BHMKyle
quote:bullshite
Glad Arkansas won this one for the SEC
quote:Key phrase here in bold.
but based on the few minutes of the game I watched, as well as the stats for the game, TCU outplayed them in most every area of the game.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:41 am to boXerrumble
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UGA ahead of UF and Arkansas?
Not even gonna bother commenting on the rest.
What in the world are you talking about? UGA has a quality win against a ranked opponent...then struggled against an inferior team. Arky did exactly the same thing. Maybe TCU is better than North Carolina. Maybe La Tech is better than Nichols. We don't know the answer to either of those questions so it's hard to say. I think one thing is clear though..UGA has more horses than Arky.
I don't know how UF is even comparable...apples an oranges in terms of resume. UF hasn't played anyone. They appear to have decent potential but so does UGA and Arky.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:43 am to Robert Duval
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We don't know the answer to either of those questions so it's hard to say. I think one thing is clear though..UGA has more horses than Arky.
I wouldn't even have an issue with UGA above Arky but do you think them at 4 and us at 9 is reasonable?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:43 am to UpToPar
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Well...in the first half. I don't think it was the dominant performance against JSU that they were hoping for. They benched their starting QB and the replacement was 6 for 14 with a pick and a fumble.
LSU went into halftime with a 17 point lead against a team that should have beat auburn last year. They benched their starting QB because he was god awful in the opening game and opening drive of game 2, and their backup came out and played nicely. I don't see how you think LSU struggled versus JSU.
Auburn was horrible at the beginning of the season last year. I'm not sure how similar this JSU team is to last season. Honestly though, I just checked in on the game a couple of times and LSU didn't look very good. The stat sheet didn't look all that dominant either. I guess I agree though that you can't come away with a lot of conclusions from it. I understand that in spite of the stats, LSU fans liked what they saw from the QB...stats don't tell the whole story but it's all I saw.
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