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re: Question for UGA fans
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:11 pm to Smokeyone
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:11 pm to Smokeyone
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Had he been drinking?
Don't know. He blew a breathalyzer and was not legally drunk though. That was part of the police report.
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And street racing whom while drunk in a UGA provided vehicle with the knowledge (we have the texts to support it) that staffers were expected to drink and drive.
Feel free to link proof of this. All reports have shown that she was driving the vehicle without permission against the rules of the athletic department. Seems like you're lying.
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Has anyone claimed Carter swerved into her? I haven’t. I stand by my statement that the street racing was a direct contributor to the deaths.
According to the police and insurance company investigations this is completely untrue. 100% of liability for the accident has been laid at the hands of the driver. Both Jalen Carter and the University of Georgia have been determined to have ZERO liability in the accident. So... you're still lying.
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She was a staffer that by UGA AD guidance was expected to drink and drive. She was in a UGA provided vehicle, after attending a UGA official and unofficial event. Morally UGA and Carter are culpable for those deaths and settlements with families support that.
100% false other than the fact she was a UGA staffer. UGA rules PROHIBITED her from drinking while on the clock. She was also PROHIBITED from driving a UGA vehicle when not performing her job duties (which she was not). Neither UGA nor Carter have been found to have ANY responsibility for the car accident. Again... you're simply lying.
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I’m not the AJC, just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t change it.
By the way that’s one of the now 30 arrests/incidents from the last couple of years. How many are too many for you to morally and ethically justify?
Again, you're not even reporting what the AJC has reported, you're lying about it.
You said UGA had 20 arrests in the last 2.5 years. That's a lie. UGA has had around 8-9 arrests from the Jalen Carter incident on. The part you are NOT ever accepting is that it's 8 arrests and 22 citations (mostly speeding tickets).
Averaging 3-4 arrests a year is typical for most football teams. It's what Tennessee averages. Having 3-4 out of a group of nearly 100 students (including walk-ons) get an arrested in a calendar year is pretty average. The university of Tennessee averages 3 arrests a year per hundred students.
As for the tickets... who knows? Nobody other than people trying to "gotcha" UGA is counting speeding tickets on anyone. Those numbers literally are of zero importance. I don't care how many tickets UGA or UT or anyone gets, it means nothing). 8 arrests in 2.5 years. That's what UGA is at. Lying about it to make it sound worse is just you lying because you have nothing to talk about that's football related so you're trying to make yourself feel better by scoring points by lying about arrests.
Stop being a little bitch.
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:15 pm to Smokeyone
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arse I posted the ESPN story citing the information. Feel free to read the complaint.
You made up the expected to drink part.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:22 pm to djsdawg
Figures recorded by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution suggest there have been 24 incidents in which someone in the Georgia football program has been apprehended by police for a traffic-related incident since the death of Willock and LeCroy early last year.
That was from Sports illustrated from June 2024 so you can add the 3 or 4 since then to comfortably agree to 28 as of today. That’s just vehicle related arrest (the 24) so add in the RaRA, Young, and Anderson non vehicle stuff puts it around 30.
That was from Sports illustrated from June 2024 so you can add the 3 or 4 since then to comfortably agree to 28 as of today. That’s just vehicle related arrest (the 24) so add in the RaRA, Young, and Anderson non vehicle stuff puts it around 30.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:25 pm to Smokeyone
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Pretty clear cut.
Maybe you missed my questions.
1. Do you know the definition of alleged?
2. What has Tennessee done to the player that assaulted the two fans last weekend?
You said...and I quote...."we have text messages". Where are the text messages? I want to see them and see what they say. I don't want some lawyer mumbo jumbo talking about what his client sad.
This post was edited on 10/10/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:30 pm to Smokeyone
As for the texts, let's clarify what the news story stated:
""text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol.""
So, to parse that statement.
It does NOT say supervisors explicitly encouraged drinking.
It says they "in effect" encouraged. What does that mean? It means that Bowles (the one trying to sue UGA and Jalen Carter) interpreted texts that DID NOT explicitly say to do that.
It also doesn't claim that they were encoraged (implicitly or explicitly) to drink with players or recruits. Rather it pertains to their parents.
It then assumes the drinking would results in drunken driving.
What we have is a text or two that indicated that it was okay to have a glass of wine or a beer with a parent while recruiting and interpreting it as permission to drive a vehicle while drunk, when even the wording of the complaint is explicitly done in a manner to not come out and say that (because it would be untrue).
Yes, many people (including coaches and staff who are often ex football players) can have a drink and still be legally allowed to drive because they are not over the limit. Interpreting that as permission to drink and drive is stupid.
This is likely a large part of why Bowles dropped her case against UGA with a token settlement amount.
""text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol.""
So, to parse that statement.
It does NOT say supervisors explicitly encouraged drinking.
It says they "in effect" encouraged. What does that mean? It means that Bowles (the one trying to sue UGA and Jalen Carter) interpreted texts that DID NOT explicitly say to do that.
It also doesn't claim that they were encoraged (implicitly or explicitly) to drink with players or recruits. Rather it pertains to their parents.
It then assumes the drinking would results in drunken driving.
What we have is a text or two that indicated that it was okay to have a glass of wine or a beer with a parent while recruiting and interpreting it as permission to drive a vehicle while drunk, when even the wording of the complaint is explicitly done in a manner to not come out and say that (because it would be untrue).
Yes, many people (including coaches and staff who are often ex football players) can have a drink and still be legally allowed to drive because they are not over the limit. Interpreting that as permission to drink and drive is stupid.
This is likely a large part of why Bowles dropped her case against UGA with a token settlement amount.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:30 pm to Smokeyone
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Feel free to read the complaint.
It's a statement made by opposing lawyers trying to get a settlement.
But there's only one thing here that's unambiguous. It is your absolute obsession with UGA. I would venture to guess if your school was somewhat competitive with UGA you wouldnt be so obsessive. But we own your arse and your mind and it burns you up.
And I love it! I can't adequately describe how much I love it! That's all I have to say on the matter, I dont have the time to go back & forth with your punk arse.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:30 pm to Smokeyone
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Had he been drinking?
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And street racing whom while drunk
Where did you see he was drunk?
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(we have the texts to support it)
Show the text messages or quit saying you have them.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 1:39 pm to Smokeyone
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Figures recorded by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution suggest there have been 24 incidents in which someone in the Georgia football program has been apprehended by police for a traffic-related incident since the death of Willock and LeCroy early last year.
I don’t care about you posting words. I am asking for a link. Still not seeing a link.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 2:41 pm to tgdawg68
Tennessee can’t help themselves. They have been beaten down by UGA for so long the pain and humiliation are embedded into their pea sized brains. They always proclaim themselves the next great team with QBs who can throw it 90 mph or over mountains and Georgia always shows them how wrong they are.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 3:09 pm to Smokeyone
Or maybe deerhunting?...oh wait, I forgot, you're a commy liberal and probably don't believe in guns or killing Bambi.
How about golf!?
How about golf!?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 4:19 pm to djsdawg
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You made up the expected to drink part.
Read the article in the link from ESPN. They were expected to drink with recruits and their families KNOWING they were going to be driving them later.
I neither concocted nor invented the statements that are part of a legal complaint.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 4:21 pm to djsdawg
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I don’t care about you posting words
You don’t like what I’m posting, you don’t want to do your own research…
Are you just wanting to whine and bitch?
Posted on 10/10/24 at 4:43 pm to Smokeyone
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You don’t like what I’m posting,
Lazy People who can’t back up their claims aren’t respectable.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 4:46 pm to Smokeyone
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Read the article in the link from ESPN. They were expected to drink with recruits and their families KNOWING they were going to be driving them later.
So you can post a link.
The funny thing is that it proves you wrong, so it makes sense why you are limiting how many links you provide.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:58 am to djsdawg
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The funny thing is that it proves you wrong,
Can you not read?
If the AD says you are expected to drink knowing you are driving then the AD expects you to drink and drive.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:12 am to Smokeyone
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the AD says you are expected to drink
That wasn’t said. This is another example of your hypocritical spin for UGA and also another example of your struggles with reading comprehension.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:35 am to djsdawg
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That wasn’t said.
The text messages were in a court filing. I posted the article.
I get not wanting to discuss things but this is becoming a pattern with you. Instead of dealing with tough issues you just want to pretend it didn’t happen… I thought moving the goalposts every 3rd post was a bad indicator for you but sticking you head up your arse and pretend reality doesn’t matter is a bit much.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:35 pm to Smokeyone
"dealing with tough issues..."
Yeah, Kirby and the administration at UGA are all just sitting around, wringing their hands, waiting for all of us posters on this sports forum to deal with all of these difficult issues they are facing.
My God man, talk about the games Saturday, talk about UT
s linebackers, talk about the playoffs for Christ's sake! But let this crap go dude. I realize you probably have no life, no girlfriend (or boyfriend), no job, no hobby, or none of the above, but this is beyond pathetic. In fact, there isn't even a name for what it is!
Yeah, Kirby and the administration at UGA are all just sitting around, wringing their hands, waiting for all of us posters on this sports forum to deal with all of these difficult issues they are facing.
My God man, talk about the games Saturday, talk about UT
s linebackers, talk about the playoffs for Christ's sake! But let this crap go dude. I realize you probably have no life, no girlfriend (or boyfriend), no job, no hobby, or none of the above, but this is beyond pathetic. In fact, there isn't even a name for what it is!
Posted on 10/11/24 at 1:54 pm to Smokeyone
all dawgs, all the time. its quite pathetic. even for you
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:01 pm to Darindawg
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Yeah, Kirby and the administration at UGA are all just sitting around, wringing their hands
Obviously. If they had stepped up in a reasonable manner when the staffer and player died y’all wouldn’t be in this position.
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