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re: Question about LSU and Bama greatness.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:30 pm to Crimsonpanther13
Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:30 pm to Crimsonpanther13
LSU had their best team ever and Bama had their best team in at least 30+ yrs. No one should have thought they would be better this year. Even as the season progresses they will still not match the '11 teams.
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:09 pm to bona fide
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LSU had their best team ever and Bama had their best team in at least 30+ yrs. No one should have thought they would be better this year. Even as the season progresses they will still not match the '11 teams.
I'm sure you want to believe that, but it's just not so. LSU has upgrade at QB and LB, and has more depth in the trenches and at RB than last year.
And if Mett stays, next year's Tigers could and should be even better than this year's.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:23 pm to Crimsonpanther13
LSU is probably around just as good. Alabama is a little worse.
LSU is a little more talented. They should win in Baton Rouge by about a touchdown.
If the game were in Tuscaloosa, Alabama would probably win.
LSU is a little more talented. They should win in Baton Rouge by about a touchdown.
If the game were in Tuscaloosa, Alabama would probably win.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:25 pm to Crimsonpanther13
lsu 2012 > lsu 2011
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:29 pm to Crimsonpanther13
From CFN:
I think they are better. They have an offense and QB that will make teams more honest now. No more stacking the box to stop the run because you don't fear the QB's passing abilities.
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This was a wake-up call to the rest of the SEC. LSU isn’t back. They never left. And they might be better.
I think they are better. They have an offense and QB that will make teams more honest now. No more stacking the box to stop the run because you don't fear the QB's passing abilities.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:31 pm to LSU1NSEC
What that 2011 team did in Tuscaloosa. That fricking night.
Never been more proud of the team. Mentally tough, experienced, and stone cold.
The 2012 team might win the national title, but I don't know if they could do what the 2011 team did last year in Tuscaloosa against an all-time great team, in my opinion.
Fans who were at that game know what I mean when I say that I'll always have 9-6.
Never been more proud of the team. Mentally tough, experienced, and stone cold.
The 2012 team might win the national title, but I don't know if they could do what the 2011 team did last year in Tuscaloosa against an all-time great team, in my opinion.
Fans who were at that game know what I mean when I say that I'll always have 9-6.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:36 pm to BayouBengals03
Only takes a few drinks for me to turn into a fighting homer. Mississippi State beats Bama, loses to an LSU team who drops losses to Bama and Arky. One can hope, one can hope.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:37 pm to Crimsonpanther13
It's somewhat refreshing that this thread did not turn into a pissing match.
I believe that LSU is better, significantly, on offense. I also think we took a 1/2 step back on defense. This can be seen so far in that Loston is <<<<< Brandon Taylor and Simon + Mills are a little bit worse than Mathieu/Simon + Claiborne. I am encouraged by the LB play so far, and the young DBs have shown flashes of excellence.
I have honestly not watched enough of Bama to make an assessment. But beating the dogshit out of Michigan is no simple task, no matter how overrated I may think they are.
I believe that LSU is better, significantly, on offense. I also think we took a 1/2 step back on defense. This can be seen so far in that Loston is <<<<< Brandon Taylor and Simon + Mills are a little bit worse than Mathieu/Simon + Claiborne. I am encouraged by the LB play so far, and the young DBs have shown flashes of excellence.
I have honestly not watched enough of Bama to make an assessment. But beating the dogshit out of Michigan is no simple task, no matter how overrated I may think they are.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:39 pm to magildachunks
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I think they are better. They have an offense and QB that will make teams more honest now. No more stacking the box to stop the run because you don't fear the QB's passing abilities.
well, that would be a nice change for us... I'm still worried about our secondary and OL being vulnerable to attrition with what we've already lost
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:53 pm to BayouBengals03
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What that 2011 team did in Tuscaloosa. That fricking night.
Saban still cries in his sleep over this
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:54 pm to Crimsonpanther13
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But, am I the only one that thinks LSU and Bama don't look quite as good as last year,
For LSU it is simply a matter of showcase. Oregon and WVU provides much beter opportunity. The D looks just as good but the playmaking/game changing of Tyrann is clearly not evident. The O is more complete and will prove to be considerably better. I don't know how the year turns out but I believe this team separates itself from 2011 team.
For UA the 2011 D may have been the GOAT. This years edition isn't but it is very good. The O from last year was pretty fair but McCarron took a step up in bowl game. The question for 2012 was/is: Does AJ maintain/improve. I think so. It remains to be seen if this years edition is better than last, we'll see.
All imo, of course.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:54 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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I'm sure you want to believe that, but it's just not so. LSU has upgrade at QB and LB, and has more depth in the trenches and at RB than last year.
Honestly haven't watched LSU play much this year so far. I think the secondary has a big drop, last year's was great. DL about same at best and LB a little better.
OL with injury looks like a wash to me. RB is the same as last year, only difference appears to be that Ware is finally dropped in rotation. That is a big improvement, but could/should have been done last year.
QB was very good last year through eight games. Haven't seen Mett yet so don't really know.
LSU may be better, but going into the year I have my doubts.
Bama has almost no chance of being better than last year.
Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:54 pm to molsusports
There the exact same teams they were last year. Same philosophy. Having mett and losing the honeybager cancel out. Our better lber play will cover our deficiencies in the back end if there is any.
Bama is the same
Bama is the same
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:00 am to bona fide
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OL with injury looks like a wash to me. RB is the same as last year, only difference appears to be that Ware is finally dropped in rotation. That is a big improvement, but could/should have been done last year.
Go back and watch the washington game. Ware is back to his freshmen form. Lighter and harder hittin then ever. I think he is our best back this year
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:01 am to bona fide
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LSU had their best team ever and Bama had their best team in at least 30+ yrs. No one should have thought they would be better this year. Even as the season progresses they will still not match the '11 teams.
I think LSU will. UA, I don't know. Depends on their O production I suppose.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:03 am to dreaux
we were fairly fortunate with injuries last year - other than J D on the OL we didn't really lose any key players... the team looks good so far but we could easily have more players go down than last year
I really like our DL, I think our OL looks solid so long as we don't lose another starter. I'm still reserving judgement on our DBs for when we play more teams with the OL to protect their QB
It is really early to compare this year's team with last year's team for either LSU or Bama
I really like our DL, I think our OL looks solid so long as we don't lose another starter. I'm still reserving judgement on our DBs for when we play more teams with the OL to protect their QB
It is really early to compare this year's team with last year's team for either LSU or Bama
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:04 am to Crimsonpanther13
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I know it's still early. But, am I the only one that thinks LSU and Bama don't look quite as good as last year, while at the same time the gap between them and the rest of the SEC is bigger this year?
Hard to judge at this point in the season but I'm guessing the LSU offense will be better with Mett at the helm but the defense and special teams might be a bit worse without the Honey Badger.
As for Bama, it's hard to imagine your defense being as good as last season after losing so many to graduation, etc. Obvious excellent performance vs Michigan though but after the 2nd week Michigan is looking highly overrated.
I don't think the gap between Bama and LSU vs the rest of the SEC is bigger. In fact, I'm pretty sure that UGA, Tennessee, MSU, and maybe SC and Florida are all better than last season. I guess we will find out in the SECCG.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:11 am to davesdawgs
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I'm pretty sure that UGA, Tennessee, MSU, and maybe SC and Florida are all better
I agree. Preseason I would have added AU and Hogs but...
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but I'm guessing the LSU offense will be better with Mett at the helm
Last year club finished 86th in total O. I'm really hoping for a jump of 50 spots.
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but the defense and special teams might be a bit worse without the Honey Badger.
The D will be different. Coach Raymond has a bigger emphasis on technique and assignment. Less gambling maybe. But, as you said, HB's absence is already noticeable.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:19 am to bona fide
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Honestly haven't watched LSU play much this year so far
That's apparent.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 1:55 am to bona fide
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QB was very good last year through eight games. Haven't seen Mett yet so don't really know.
I think you meant QB was nothing special last season. At no point was it really very good.
The LSU run game just dominated in every game and didn't need a good QB. It made our two below average QBs look respectable at times.
Mett actually looks like a solid QB who could potentially win a big game. This is the biggest improvement for LSU an makes this team better than last season as the secondary is the only unit that took a step back. That will be helped out by the stronger front seven and they are still a solid and talented unit.
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