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Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:51 am to lsufball19
Private schools they count students differently if you play public schools like at a public school 1 student is 1 student and private 1 students counts as 1.3 or 1.5 so you have less students but get classified in a higher bracket. It sucked when I went to a private school we were considered 3A and played teams that had 50-60 players we had like 27 and maybe 17 starters, we all played both ways and on top of that our school didn't give a damn bout football and would not let them recruit players
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:52 am to ThaKaptin
Just google my high school if you want to see HS recruitment, St Thomas Aquinas Fort Lauderdale. It's bad 
I'm pretty sure we have more Active NFLers than most D1 colleges at around 12 or so players.
I'm pretty sure we have more Active NFLers than most D1 colleges at around 12 or so players.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:52 am to UAtide11
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Your entire argument rests on your belief that the best athletes always get recruited away by private schools, which isn't true.
No, it doesnt even come close to resting on that. It rests on the fact that the schools like Saint Paul's have a higher number of top quality players than their public school counterparts because they purposefully go out and recruit them and bring them in.
You dont have to have the best players in the state for it to make a difference. You only need a higher percentage of high quality players.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:53 am to ThaKaptin
You should see what Edgewood is doing in the AISA. Carr is a pussy who can't compete without bringing kids in from all over.
Just glad my school beat his arse every year I was playing.
Just glad my school beat his arse every year I was playing.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:54 am to ThaKaptin
What is the issue here?
Private schools play in a higher classification. They don't have districts because their students pay tuition to go there.
Private schools play in a higher classification. They don't have districts because their students pay tuition to go there.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:54 am to lsufball19
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in TN that's exactly what they do and for the reasons you laid out.
This is the situation in TN:
There are two divisions, D-I and D-II.
D-I is made up of public schools. Private schools also may play in D-I, but their athletes may not receive any kind of financial aid. Employee discounts/tuition waivers are not considered financial aid. There are several private schools that play in D-I.
D-II is made up of private schools that give financial aid to athletes. The financial aid must be need based. Families' financial statements must be reviewed by an outside party, and they must be approved by the TSSAA.
Public schools in Tennessee also find ways of recruiting. When Rick Insell left Shelbyville HS to become the women's basketball coach at MTSU, the big joke was "yeah he can coach, but now as a college coach will he be able to learn how to recruit?" Joke, because stories of his recruiting at Shelbyville were legendary.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:55 am to TiggerWoods
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You should see what Edgewood is doing in the AISA
That's because the schools that used to dominate Edgewood all left to play public schools.
Well except Bessemer. I assume they are still playing AISA.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:56 am to NYCAuburn
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its that they get recruited away. some states or regions allow public schools to do this as well. Then there is always a workaround from the public schools who choose to walk on the line.
But that is the entire purpose of private schools. Private schools get to choose who attends, public schools do not. Every difference between the two education systems is a derivative of that original point.
Private schools try to get the best students they can get. The smartest, the most athletic, the most artistic, the most musically talented, etc.
This entire thread feels like a gripe about the basis of the private school model.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:56 am to DynastyDawg
Yeah I think we have
99-06 I think
99-06 I think
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:00 pm to The Nino
I graduated in 07. If we would have made the jump sooner (we did the year after I graduated) we probably would have known a lot of the same people.
Now I think we're actually rivals in sports.
Now I think we're actually rivals in sports.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:00 pm to ThaKaptin
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No, it doesnt even come close to resting on that. It rests on the fact that the schools like Saint Paul's have a higher number of top quality players than their public school counterparts because they purposefully go out and recruit them and bring them in.
You dont have to have the best players in the state for it to make a difference. You only need a higher percentage of high quality players.
Firstly, public schools recruit too. Secondly, private schools get to do things differently from public schools because their students pay for the privilege to do so.
If you want to whine about the free option not being as optimal as the option that cost money, so be it.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:01 pm to UAtide11
I'm not sure what the issue is here.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
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the school still makes money. rich donors pay for a lot of these scholarships, so the school is still making their money. the same type rich donors that donate 4.5 million dollars to build this at a high school of fewer than 500 students
I can vouch for this. I help do the fundraising at MUS, and the scholarships for these recruited students come from alum/parent donations
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:02 pm to UAtide11
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This entire thread feels like a gripe about the basis of the private school model.
its about the restrictive regulations that public schools have to fight.
Would you be pissed if Bama had a 25 recruit per year limit and no one else in the SEC had the same restriction?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:03 pm to lsufball19
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The only public schools that have any advantage are the ones with several thousand students because they're the only public school in the county where they play.
This is not at all true. Magnet schools can have a huge advantage because of open enrollment. Central Magnet School in Murfreesboro, TN, has an enrollment of 791, It has only been open a few years, yet has already been to the state tournament in various sports, helped in part because any student zoned for any school in the county can go to CMS if they are accepted into the program.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:05 pm to DynastyDawg
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Private schools also don't get funding from the state governments either. Their athletics programs are bought and paid for by tuition and private donations.
Let's not act like Public schools are getting the shaft here.
i don't know where you live, but lol at Memphis City Schools getting state or city funding worth a shite. They absolutely get the shaft. In fact, MUS' most recent deal with an inner city school, from what I've been told, to get them to play a game was that they'd pay for all their equipment and uniforms. Some schools are so underfunded they can barely field a football team
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:07 pm to jchamil
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I help do the fundraising at MUS,
what class are you?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:08 pm to lsufball19
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i don't know where you live, but lol at Memphis City Schools getting state or city funding worth a shite.
Well that's a completely different issue, but private schools still get zero. They pay for it all on their own.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:08 pm to NYCAuburn
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its about the restrictive regulations that public schools have to fight.
They find plenty of ways to get around it though...
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