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re: Press Release from The Teabagger's Attorneys
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:05 am to LC412000
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:05 am to LC412000
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"The 18-year-old victim was never physically harmed and, in fact, was so intoxicated that he would have had no recollection of the incident, but for a video posted online," the lawyers wrote. "Any 'harm' is entirely post hoc and amplified by media."
So, it is ok to rape someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Apparently so, in Alabama.
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Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:23 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:Or, one could use proper analogies and stop with all the bs feigned outrage and over the top comparisons to rape or child molestation.
"The 18-year-old victim was never physically harmed and, in fact, was so intoxicated that he would have had no recollection of the incident, but for a video posted online," the lawyers wrote. "Any 'harm' is entirely post hoc and amplified by media."
So, it is ok to rape someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Apparently so, in Alabama.
Let's say you are drunk and some chick is passed out at a bar or party. Your buddy dares you to grab her boob. Like a drunk idiot, you do.
Are we now going to equate this victim of "sexual battery" with a rape victim? Should you be punished by a term of imprisonment measured in years? By a term of imprisonment measured at a minimum of 25 years? Should you be a registered sex offender?
Get some fricking perspective.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:26 am to WDE24
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Or, one could use proper analogies and stop with all the bs feigned outrage and over the top comparisons to rape or child molestation.
Let's say you are drunk and some chick is passed out at a bar or party. Your buddy dares you to grab her boob. Like a drunk idiot, you do.
Are we now going to equate this victim of "sexual battery" with a rape victim? Should you be punished by a term of imprisonment measured in years? By a term of imprisonment measured at a minimum of 25 years? Should you be a registered sex offender?
Get some fricking perspective.
The next time some dude grabs my arse in a bar, I'm going to yell rape. I bet that will go over well.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:31 am to Nuts4LSU
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So, it is ok to rape someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Apparently so, in Alabama.
Don't be so delusional.
What Downing did was fricked up, but in no way does it equal rape.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:31 am to LC412000
You guys are right so let me rephrase my question:
"The 18-year-old victim was never physically harmed and, in fact, was so intoxicated that he would have had no recollection of the incident, but for a video posted online," the lawyers wrote. "Any 'harm' is entirely post hoc and amplified by media."
So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
"The 18-year-old victim was never physically harmed and, in fact, was so intoxicated that he would have had no recollection of the incident, but for a video posted online," the lawyers wrote. "Any 'harm' is entirely post hoc and amplified by media."
So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:34 am to LC412000
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So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
You are confusing finding an appropriate punishment for saying it's OK.
The attorney is saying that in the grand scheme of things, the long term impact of a sexual battery or lewd act without penetration is far less emotionally or physically harmful, and that the punishment should reflect that.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:34 am to LC412000
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So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Yeah, I think you still dont get it
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:36 am to LC412000
quote:No. However, the punishment should be proportional to the crime.
So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Having someone's skin touch yours while you are passed out, even if it is skin of the scrotum, isn't the type of crime that should be punished in the same way an actual sexual battery, like rape or molestation, is.
This post was edited on 1/27/12 at 11:37 am
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:37 am to AUnite
I think most females on this board have had some form of sexual battery inflicted upon us many times, if we go by the letter of the law. I don't think there is much outrage in the fact that none of us have probably called the police. I think what the teabagger did is reprehensible, but this is just ridiculous.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:38 am to WDE24
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Having someone's skin touch yours while you are passed out, even if it is skin of the scrotum, isn't the type of crime that should be punished in the same way an actual sexual battery, like rape or molestation, is.
This, all day.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:39 am to Bellabama
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I think most females on this board have had some form of sexual battery inflicted upon us many times
I think you'd be correct.
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I don't think there is much outrage in the fact that none of us have probably called the police.
Nope. I just had him thrown out of the bar.
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I think what the teabagger did is reprehensible, but this is just ridiculous.
I completely agree.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:41 am to LC412000
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So, it is ok to perform sexual battery on someone, male or female, as long as they are not aware of it?
Ask your quarterback.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:44 am to Bellabama
No, I have to disagree with you. In this thread, I am not proposing any punishment. It is outside my area of expertise to even think that I could establish the level of punishment the crime deserves.
Of course the attorney is saying the long impact is far less emotionally or physically harmful, and that the punishment should reflect that. He is defending his client. The question to ask the attorney is, “What if it is your face or the face of your 18 year old son plastered on video. What should be the punishment?” or “Should the New Orleans District Attorney even make an attempt to push forward with the case?”
The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
Of course the attorney is saying the long impact is far less emotionally or physically harmful, and that the punishment should reflect that. He is defending his client. The question to ask the attorney is, “What if it is your face or the face of your 18 year old son plastered on video. What should be the punishment?” or “Should the New Orleans District Attorney even make an attempt to push forward with the case?”
The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:46 am to crimsonsaint
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Ask your quarterback.
Unsure what you are getting at?
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:46 am to crimsonsaint
I also think it's fairly obvious personal outrage felt by people who think his punishment isn't sever enough should look in the mirror and evaluate whether their qualification of the severity of crimes is based in pride, homophobia, or whatever malcontented prejudice that exists.
Sexual battery is sexual battery. I'm getting tired of people qualifying its severity. The guy was charged. He will be punished. He should be punished. If Louisiana code doesn't differentiate, who the frick are these people on a message board to do it for us?
Sexual battery is sexual battery. I'm getting tired of people qualifying its severity. The guy was charged. He will be punished. He should be punished. If Louisiana code doesn't differentiate, who the frick are these people on a message board to do it for us?
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:47 am to LC412000
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Of course the attorney is saying the long impact is far less emotionally or physically harmful, and that the punishment should reflect that. He is defending his client. The question to ask the attorney is, “What if it is your face or the face of your 18 year old son plastered on video. What should be the punishment?” or “Should the New Orleans District Attorney even make an attempt to push forward with the case?”
The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:47 am to LC412000
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The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:48 am to LC412000
quote:probation, community service and fines.
What if it is your face or the face of your 18 year old son plastered on video. What should be the punishment?”
quote:If this is your line of thinking, your beef is with the founding fathers and the constitution.
The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
This post was edited on 1/27/12 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:48 am to LC412000
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Unsure what you are getting at?
A lot of people don't think what he did was a big deal, or that it was overblown. He didn't face jail time for what he did. He is getting ready to play for the starting QB position. It's frustrating as a female to see such a double standard of overreaction or lack thereof.
Posted on 1/27/12 at 11:50 am to LC412000
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No, I have to disagree with you. In this thread, I am not proposing any punishment. It is outside my area of expertise to even think that I could establish the level of punishment the crime deserves.
Of course the attorney is saying the long impact is far less emotionally or physically harmful, and that the punishment should reflect that. He is defending his client. The question to ask the attorney is, “What if it is your face or the face of your 18 year old son plastered on video. What should be the punishment?” or “Should the New Orleans District Attorney even make an attempt to push forward with the case?”
The attorneys are defense attorneys, so perhaps they should bear some burden for the amount of crime in the city of New Orleans. They do everything in their power to have these criminals released from the charges and back on the streets to perform more criminal activities.
Dude. Why don't you go volunteer at a rape shelter and talk to people there before you come in and wax poetic about sexual battery crimes.
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