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re: Predict South Carolina's record

Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:15 pm to
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It's part of a never ending narrative about how UGA struggles in Columbia. Since 2000, the Dawgs have lost four times there. Three of those were over a five year period to a guy named Spurrier. He is gone and so is the SC magic.

One of those was to Holtz as a prohibative 24 point favorite with UGA ranked #4 in the country and Quincy Carter at the helm.

We were just coming off a 21 game losing streak.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:17 pm to
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In hindsight, if Foley could have weathered the intense fan and media criticism and stuck by Muschamp, the Gators would be in a much better place today.





Here's another...

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Muschamp left McElwain a tough, hard-nosed, disciplined defensive football team that McElwain rode to two consecutive SEC Championship Games before driving it into the ground. McElwain left new coach Dan Mullen a program rife with discipline issues over the past two seasons and a strength and conditioning program so embarrassingly soft that some UF players actually sought out their own personal trainers.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:18 pm to
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7-5. Losses to UGA, A&M, UF, Clemson, and another to either UK, Missouri, or OM.



this is correct
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:18 pm to
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So you think Muschamp is going to do better at SC then Mullen will at UF ?

Yes
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I don’t think it will even be close

Go figure.
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Isn’t Muschamp 8-8 at SC in conference play ?

Yes
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Mullen was really good at State and was stolen away by UF

lulz
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It’s not like he was at a good program and sucked so bad he got fired then went to another SEC school.

No, it's not. What's your point?
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:18 pm to
Let Mullen coach a game for UF before claiming he is going to be better than Muschamp. Mullen has a shite ton more pressure on him at UF than he had a MSU. We don't know if he can handle that kind of pressure yet
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:19 pm to
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Isn’t Muschamp 8-8 at SC in conference play ?


He wants to bring this up but ignore that Mullen is 33-39 in conference play at State
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12739 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:20 pm to
Foley should have fired him after his 3rd year . So does anyone actually disagree with me about Mullen doing better at UF then Muschamp will do at SC? I can’t blame you guys for not saying it . Even you guys know I am right .
Posted by SECUSC4
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:20 pm to
Great article. Our gain, Florida's loss.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:21 pm to
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So does anyone actually disagree with me about Mullen doing better at UF then Muschamp will do at SC?

Yes
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:21 pm to


I'm sure that record is worse now. Congrats. You got yourself a real winner

ETA: It is worse. It's 2-16 now.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 1:24 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:22 pm to
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He wants to bring this up but ignore that Mullen is 33-39 in conference play at State

Dammit CNB ... you spoiled what I was planning for his dumbass retort.

He should thank you. I was going to be a bit harsher with him.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:23 pm to
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So does anyone actually disagree with me about Mullen doing better at UF then Muschamp will do at SC?


So far, Mullen hasn't done ANYTHING at UF except have them on track to pull in the 30th-25th best recruiting class in the nation.

In all honesty, this conversation can't even begin until after the season is over.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by SECUSC4
Member since Jun 2018
1355 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:28 pm to
You mention Mullen being better than Muschamp in multiple threads and in almost every thread you have more downvotes than upvotes. People have explained how they think your wrong and its not just USC fans. Its just clear now that the Florida goggles are so thick you can't even begin to see reason in someone else's arguement.

Am I wrong? Is there anything that anyone can say to get you to even consider Mullen might not be better?

Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
7738 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:02 pm to
9-3

Losses to UGA, Clemson, and either UF or A&M.
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
741 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:03 pm to
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So you think Muschamp is a better coach them Mullen? Mullen is a top 5 coach in the SEC and Muschamp is a coach very few SEC programs would want . Maybe you think the other coaches around Muschamp make up for him not being a good head coach ?



We could've had Mullen if we wanted him. He wanted the job when Muschamp was hired.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11138 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:00 pm to
Actually we got popped in the mouth early in the SEC championship game. We popped them early at JH.

Then they pecked away with 3 fgs. Then the long TD pass. After that, the rout was on.

Again, if you play your best and we play our best, we're gonna win. You will need us not to play very well.

Last year's team did not beat a great team in a true road game crowd wise.

That said, I can't believe these kids are gonna be affected by the crowd in this game, when the majority of them have played on some of the biggest stages in football.

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16958 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:34 pm to
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We could've had Mullen if we wanted him. He wanted the job when Muschamp was hired.



Where did you get that answer? The source please!
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:16 pm to
Really not getting this Gator optimism or how people think they are some kind of dark horse in the East.

Regardless of what kind of job Mullen does at Florida, this is quite literally... the least talented Florida team since... I don't know when exacty. Muschamp could recruit. Meyer could. Spurreir - uh somehow he wound up with some. The Zooker could recruit. Galen Hall left Spurrier some tools to start his run. Charlie Pell - heh, Ol' Charlie - Bear school of recruiting.

But this year's Florida team? To my eye they are behind Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, and probably Kentucky on sheer athletic ability of the roster.

If Franks adapts to Mullen's system, uses his natural athleticism, and doesn't make a lot of dumb throws this could be an effective offense, if not one that wins championships.

This Florida defense is in no way comparable to the unit Muschamp left, or Meyer, or even the Zooker's units.

So what the heck is all this Florida hype about? Seriously I kind of think this year breaks the jinx they have on Kentucky.

Personally I think Florida is behind the 8 ball with FSU, and Georgia. They also have a very good chance of losing to South Carolina, Kentucy, Missouri, Tennessee, and LSU. No idea who their other West opponent is this year, but this is not a situation where the talent is there and a coach can come in and change things immediately.

The talent may be in Florida, but it is not playing for UF this year.

My two cents anyway. Kind of expecting them to finish fourth, fifth, or sixth in the conference (depending on whether Franks really has a solid bone head instead of a brain).

BTW, Florida guys. You better hope Franks gets it together. He's athletic enough to do very well in Mullen's scheme. You better hope he does.

I know you didn't sign a freshman qb who can come in and make a difference first year.

Posted by MSHawg1
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Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:20 pm to
They're Florida. It is assumed that they will have the talent to compete. I understand where the dark horse stuff come from
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:28 pm to
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So does anyone actually disagree with me about Mullen doing better at UF then Muschamp will do at SC? I can’t blame you guys for not saying it . Even you guys know I am right .



What's going to happen is Mullen will get better players than he did at Mississippi State.

Unfortunately he is not going to be able to assemble the kind of talent Smart and Taggart are going to get at their schools.

So does he break through? I guess it depends on whether you think he is a better coach than Taggart or Smart.

Time will tell. Three years will tell you all you want to know.
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