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Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:41 am to BuckeyeGoon
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:41 am to BuckeyeGoon
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So kind of like club football.
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Exactly. Very interesting information. Thanks for the share.
Have you ever been to any of the games? Looks like it is mid-west centric at the moment although at times there were schools from all over the country - even apprenticeship programs - that is really interesting. It looks like they have a CCTV network.
UGA used to, and may still have, a club ice hockey team and in the late 90s or so they had a pretty solid marketing campaign with Georgia Tech for certain but I think Clemson and others were involved. They had games in Savannah and Atlanta and apparently it was pretty popular. If it worked with ice hockey in the south it would almost certainly work with football.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:58 am to AwgustaDawg
Assuming that there is a "super conference" of some sort, there will still be opportunities for good athletes to compete with scholarships at G5, FCS, or lower divisions. So you'd be left with some pretty bad talent to play for a Georgia. Do you think that alumni or students would want to watch that crap or be happy if such teams sucked.
College tuition, room and board, living expenses, etc. require many students to borrow a ton of money to pay for a college education. Their focus should be on getting their degree. Why spend time in practice, meetings, weight training, etc? What's the payoff?
Who is going to fund the expense of field such teams?
College football hasn't been "amateur" or "pure" for decades. Nor has college basketball.
There is no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
College tuition, room and board, living expenses, etc. require many students to borrow a ton of money to pay for a college education. Their focus should be on getting their degree. Why spend time in practice, meetings, weight training, etc? What's the payoff?
Who is going to fund the expense of field such teams?
College football hasn't been "amateur" or "pure" for decades. Nor has college basketball.
There is no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:01 am to lsusteve1
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Have colleges that don’t wanna play the NIL game go back to traditional CFB.
I think this is inevitable, almost like the Ivey League. It would be pretty compelling to have schools like Vandy and Duke and Rutgers competing against one another - they'd be more competitive year in and out against each other than they are with SEC, ACC and BIG10 teams who are all in on being a pro league. I think academics eventually exert their power at many universities and the AD will be reigned in.....even at football schools the academics drive a massive amount more revenue and exposure to future potential revenue than the AD does.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:05 am to i sip tea
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You are not the only one who has had this idea bumping around in your head. Details are hard to sort out, but I basically would rather see this sort of thing. "13th Grade Football"
If it were promoted on campus and in town as an event the locals and students would turn out just because its an event. When we lived in Athens women's soccer and softball wasn't what it is now but it became what it is now because Athens and the University promoted it as an event, on a Tuesday night for example, and people turned out to see what was up...and had fun. Football already enjoys a piece of the public's mind, especially in college towns like Athens and Auburn etc.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:15 am to RockyRococco
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one team in your amateur league would give a charger and a job to the uncle for a QB and we're back to square one...
College football was never pure.
Read about “ringers” in the 1890s to 1920s.
Leonard Wood is a fascinating story.
From the pro football hall of fame website:
“1920: Pro football was in a state of confusion due to three major problems: dramatically rising salaries; players continually jumping from one team to another following the highest offer; and the use of college players still enrolled in school.”
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Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:21 am to AwgustaDawg
Find your nearest DIII school and adopt them. Seriously. These are guys and gals that other students actually see in their classes, studying things like engineering and English and education, because their college years are the end of their athletic careers.
Just don’t encourage others to do so as well, or that level will end up as fricked as DI. None of what’s wrong with the current state of DI could have happened without the amount of fan interest there is.
Just don’t encourage others to do so as well, or that level will end up as fricked as DI. None of what’s wrong with the current state of DI could have happened without the amount of fan interest there is.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:35 am to CigarDawg
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Have some pride as a Dawg and an Augustan.
Dang, that's at least three people from the Augusta area on this board, I grew up in south Richmond county and live in Columbia county now. Augusta is pretty well represented considering this is a board based in Louisiana
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:55 am to JohnnyU
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Assuming that there is a "super conference" of some sort, there will still be opportunities for good athletes to compete with scholarships at G5, FCS, or lower divisions. So you'd be left with some pretty bad talent to play for a Georgia. Do you think that alumni or students would want to watch that crap or be happy if such teams sucked.
College tuition, room and board, living expenses, etc. require many students to borrow a ton of money to pay for a college education. Their focus should be on getting their degree. Why spend time in practice, meetings, weight training, etc? What's the payoff?
Who is going to fund the expense of field such teams?
College football hasn't been "amateur" or "pure" for decades. Nor has college basketball.
There is no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
These are very good points BUT there are a LOT of former high school football players at UGA and places like UGA who aren't good enough to play even at a place like West Georgia but still enjoy competing. And it is true that those kids are there to get an education many of them are not financially strapped and aren't having to spend every spare moment studying....and the proof is in the pudding, all you have to do is visit a college town on a Tuesday night and see a pile of kids out and about spending money and not studying...most of them probably ought not be doing either but they are. I don't know if anyone would watch or not but I do know that in a college town if the school and the town promote a tiddly winks match or a paint drying seminar locals and students will turn out....its an event and folks like an event.
UGA and GT used to have freshman teams (I imagine most schools did) and they played one another on Thanksgiving day and it was a big deal. The Shriners sponsored it as a fund raiser for their children,s hospital and it was a BIG deal....tickets weren't overly easy to come by, believe it or not. These were freshman players on scholarship and walk ons. It was a big deal.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:57 am to AwgustaDawg
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paint drying seminar
You know the deal.
You start out with a simple “paint drying” contest.
Elmer from East Arkansas Tech wins.
Next thing you know, Harlan from West Georgia A&M who worked in research at Sherwin Williams shows up and breaks Elmer’s record by 15 minutes.
Now the race is on. North Alabama State decides to go all in on paint drying. They get NIL deal with Behr and hire John Binkleton, former head of research at the International Paint Institute, as their head coach. He then hires an “paint application” coach who needs an “early application” and “late application” coach.
It will devolve. Quickly.
Look at “pickleball”. A made up driveway game has pros.
Paint Drying will be whored out like all the rest. Draft Kings scandals await. Be careful what you ask for.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:15 am to AwgustaDawg
You are basically asking people to come out on a Thursday night and basically watch High School football in terms of talent.
I think you would probably get about the equivalent of a high school crowd from the local fans... but nobody is going to drive in to watch that if there is a real game on Saturday.
If these games were played on Saturdays and were the actual team... maybe more would come.
I DO think you could force schools to only recruit players who meet the school's actual admission standards and have a product that would bring crowds. It would be roughly on par with Ivy league football... but I think it would be good enough quality to get fans to still come.
I think you would probably get about the equivalent of a high school crowd from the local fans... but nobody is going to drive in to watch that if there is a real game on Saturday.
If these games were played on Saturdays and were the actual team... maybe more would come.
I DO think you could force schools to only recruit players who meet the school's actual admission standards and have a product that would bring crowds. It would be roughly on par with Ivy league football... but I think it would be good enough quality to get fans to still come.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:29 pm to makersmark1
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You know the deal.
You start out with a simple “paint drying” contest.
Elmer from East Arkansas Tech wins.
Next thing you know, Harlan from West Georgia A&M who worked in research at Sherwin Williams shows up and breaks Elmer’s record by 15 minutes.
Now the race is on. North Alabama State decides to go all in on paint drying. They get NIL deal with Behr and hire John Binkleton, former head of research at the International Paint Institute, as their head coach. He then hires an “paint application” coach who needs an “early application” and “late application” coach.
It will devolve. Quickly.
Look at “pickleball”. A made up driveway game has pros.
Paint Drying will be whored out like all the rest. Draft Kings scandals await. Be careful what you ask for.
very nice.....
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:52 pm to AwgustaDawg
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With that in mind how many people would attend games on Thursday nights, for example, consisting of players from the actual student body without any scholarships or NIL other than what they could get on their own and no portal unless of course they were actually a transfer student and not just a player who traded himself? This was what CFB was originally, I doubt greed didn't set in pretty early but for some period of time this is what it was.
It would cost a heap of money BUT college kids have mamas and daddies who foot the bill for all manner of stupid shite and many would do so if Johnny wanted to play at Tennessee. Travel would be difficult but high school football and basketball do it. I don't know if it is viable or not....I know in places like Athens there is some sporting event going on a couple of times a week but I think as popular as football is those games might draw more than women's soccer and even basketball at most schools. The games could be played in places like Sanford Stadium....its a university facility. I think you could get 5000 people to Athens on a Thursday night to watch a bunch of pretty good high school players who weren't quite good enough to play CFB play another group from Georgia Tech or Clemson. It wouldn't be big but with live sports being the only compelling thing on network TV there is probably even some revenue in broadcasting it. In metro Atlanta on Friday nights there will be about as many people watching high school football live as there is in Athens on Saturday....I think it'd be big enough to at least be an event.
It sounds like you're basically advocating for club sports to replace what has become of college sports. Colleges already have these. Some big schools even have club football teams. Ohio State, Boston College, and Michigan State, for example, have club football teams already. I don't believe they would be well-attended. At best, I'd imagine if what we have now was no longer associated whatsoever with the universities, this new hypothetical club football-esque league would be attended at level probably comparable to what you see in FCS or D-II currently. You're not going to see 100k people watch that on a Thursday night
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 12:53 pm
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