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re: Phil Fulmer getting inducted into the CFB HOF

Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
In all seriousness, the CFB HOF has horrible standards. I'm not talking about Fulmer as much as other guys.
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 11:42 am
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1736 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
Can't remember the details of that season, but I never thought of them as SEC champion caliber. They backed into that game. The worst part was the Fulmer extension that followed which lead to Hamilton wanting to go cheap on the next two hires.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
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ETA: Crushed by Bama. Lost to Cal. Crushed by Tebow. This isn't controversial, people.


2007 UT beat Vandy by 1 point. beat Kentucky by 2 points in 4 OT.

Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
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With their backup quarterback with a cut hand. You are free to love on the 2007 vols if you like.
ETA: Crushed by Bama. Lost to Cal. Crushed by Tebow. This isn't controversial, people.

I'm not "loving" on them, but I think it's ridiculous to say that they were incredibly bad.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:43 am to
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Great pro, but we are talking college, no? I understand he has the Vols rushing record, I think. But my understanding of Vol football leads me to believe he took it from Gerald Riggs Jr. and they both only held it because the studs from UT-k left early.

Foster has more yards than everyone probably because he has more carries than anyone.

Again, I will defer to the vol fans if this is completely off base.


You aren't wrong. He just didn't do much in college because of his supporting cast and coaching.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:43 am to
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I'm not "loving" on them, but I think it's ridiculous to say that they were incredibly bad.


I agree. Good thing I didn't say that.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:43 am to
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Can't remember the details of that season, but I never thought of them as SEC champion caliber. They backed into that game. The worst part was the Fulmer extension that followed which lead to Hamilton wanting to go cheap on the next two hires.


I don't think the extension had much effect on anything, to be honest.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:44 am to
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The best player, and I guess there could be some debate here, was Britton Colquitt.


Jerod Mayo and Eric Berry were the best two players on that team by a wide margin. Both top 7 picks in the draft.

The offensive line was probably the best in the nation, too, production wise.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:44 am to
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2007 UT beat Vandy by 1 point. beat Kentucky by 2 points in 4 OT.


Beat South Carolina in overtime and were lucky to even get there. He very well may have been fired that season if not for a couple things here and there.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:44 am to
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back to back SEC titles in 97 & 98 (no one has done it since)
and 5 losses UT had over a 4 year period (95-98) have never been repeated in the SEC.

I know who was responsible for 3 of those.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:45 am to
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Jerod Mayo and Eric Berry were the best two players on that team by a wide margin. Both top 7 picks in the draft.

The offensive line was probably the best in the nation, too, production wise.


Good call on Berry. Probably in terms of respect at their positions, I'd go Berry, Mayo, and Colquitt.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
50500 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:45 am to
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Eric Berry



That game where Tebow and Berry collided I thought Verne was going to need a diaper change
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:46 am to
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I agree. Good thing I didn't say that.

You said they were "incredibly bad, by SEC East standards." Certainly no worse than 2010 SC.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:48 am to
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You said they were "incredibly bad, by SEC East standards." Certainly no worse than 2010 SC.


If you are going to quote it, you should get it right.

For honesty's sake:

quote:

That team was incredibly bad, by SEC East winning standards, but the coaching job that year was tremendous in my opinion.


In terms of teams that won the East, I would take virtually any of them over the 2007 Vols. Lattimore and non-fat Alshon Jeffrey? Yes, please.
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 11:49 am
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:49 am to
There were 4 players off that defense drafted in the 1st round at some point.

Mayo was the best LB in the SEC in 2007 and Berry was the best DB.

Defensively they were plenty talented enough.

They had 2 NFL running backs, a solid college QB, and a very good OL.

Certainly better than 2010 SC imo.
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 11:51 am
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:51 am to
We wouldn't have the Fulmer Cup without him either. That's hof worthy by itself.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:52 am to
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There were 4 players off that defense drafted in the 1st round at some point.

Mayo was the best LB in the SEC in 2007 and Berry was the best DB.

Defensively they were plenty talented enough.

They had 2 NFL running backs, a solid college QB, and a very good OL.

Certainly better than 2009 SC imo.


All fair points. I'd take every other East winning UT team over them. Every UF team over them. Every UGA team over them, except maybe this past years because the schedule makes it hard to tell how good they were.

I'd say 2010 USCe 2007 UT-k and 2011 UGA are the bottom three, which is no big deal, because, hey, they still won the East.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:56 am to
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back to back SEC titles in 97 & 98 (no one has done it since)


Working on updating that this year...we'll see.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65981 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:00 pm to
frick Fulmer. frick Tennessee.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7346 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:12 pm to
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frick Fulmer. frick Tennessee.


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