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re: Petrino to resign on Monday?
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:10 pm to Tammany Tom
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:10 pm to Tammany Tom
Can anybody fark Petrino running bleachers with Jeff Long watching? 
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:25 pm to SLC
A third point to add.....RECRUITING will be negatively impacted by this and many other douchebag moves by your coach...and YES opposing fans love it for 2 reasons 1. Petrino is and has ALWAYS been a shady character 2. Blowhard, delusional arky posters, will be fewer on this site...lmao
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:39 pm to tickfawtiger
It's all fun and games until your coach is the one acting an idiot...
Posted on 4/8/12 at 4:13 pm to aggiesrul8
The reasons I think he's gone aren't because of morality. I don't really care what he does in his private life, that's between him and his wife, and God if you so believe.
It's about the personnel issues. He's the highest paid employee of a public entity - the state of Arkansas. His employment contract has clause about not engaging in behavior detrimental to the University, which he's violated in spectacular fashion. He had an affair with a young woman half his age, despite being a married father of 4, and this became embarrassingly public when he initially lied about the true circumstances of the accident to his employer, his family and the media. He disrespected and embarrassed his employer with these actions. Which could maybe be dealt with if the young lady in question was unaffiliated with the University.
But, he apparently hired the woman he was having an "inappropriate relationship" with to a position where he would be her supervisor. That's a whole other can of worms from an HR standpoint. If they make an exception for him, they set a precedent for how these matters will be handled. That has ramifications for every University and state employee.
The embarrassment, the HR issues, and the ongoing PR and possible recruitment problems that will result, leads to a mix of issues I just don't see how he can overcome. JMO.
It's about the personnel issues. He's the highest paid employee of a public entity - the state of Arkansas. His employment contract has clause about not engaging in behavior detrimental to the University, which he's violated in spectacular fashion. He had an affair with a young woman half his age, despite being a married father of 4, and this became embarrassingly public when he initially lied about the true circumstances of the accident to his employer, his family and the media. He disrespected and embarrassed his employer with these actions. Which could maybe be dealt with if the young lady in question was unaffiliated with the University.
But, he apparently hired the woman he was having an "inappropriate relationship" with to a position where he would be her supervisor. That's a whole other can of worms from an HR standpoint. If they make an exception for him, they set a precedent for how these matters will be handled. That has ramifications for every University and state employee.
The embarrassment, the HR issues, and the ongoing PR and possible recruitment problems that will result, leads to a mix of issues I just don't see how he can overcome. JMO.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 4:57 pm to semotruman
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semotruman
I fully agree. People seem to insist upon the morality issue as the basis for making him leave, and therefore, can dismiss it as an issue because it's nothing other coaches aren't doing, it's not the public's business, it has nothing to do with football, or whatever.
There is a pattern of behavior on his part that fits in with his actions here. It may or may not have included women or affairs before, but his lack of forthcomingness is now directly impacting his employer, fans, and the University's image. He clearly makes no effort to put anyone else first, or even go through the motions to preserve decorum. At the very least, it shows incredibly bad judgment and an indication that he assumes that rules don't apply to him. At this point, trust is gone. There is significant question about retaining someone who makes such bad decisions, and how this pattern of decision making will impact them in the future.
If the university keeps him, they risk vulnerability from people who attach a hostile culture of employment when he, or someone else, does something in the future that may reinforce negative perceptions of the school and what they will overlook. It may be worth it, or they may be able to restructure his autonomy to protect their interests. All coaches probably share the character trait of entitlement, narcissism, or whatever you want to call it, but most are smart enough to keep it from being publically documented in such blatant and cavalier ways. Clearly Petrino's disregard for this, regardless of how well he coaches, is cause for concern.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 5:13 pm to Bellabama
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Bellabama
Can't agree more. He apparently believes the rules don't apply to him. I could be wrong, but I think karma may have caught up with him.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 5:37 pm to semotruman
Not to mention, I don't know how he gets his swaggah back now. He's totally impotent. Pun intended.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 5:45 pm to Bellabama
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Not to mention, I don't know how he gets his swaggah back now. He's totally impotent. Pun intended.
Yeah, I think his future performance may be a little....unsatisfying for everyone involved.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 5:46 pm to Tammany Tom
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Tammany Tom
My post supports your point where you stated "Oh, I agree. There is nothing moral about big time college football. We are all dirty."
I never accused you of taking a higher moral ground nor was that the intent.
In regards to your post about it may negatively impact his recruiting. I'm not sure his recruiting could be much worse. He hasn't exactly lit the world on fire from that standpoint. I expect he'll be able to attract the same type of recruits he has in the past.
I don't have the words to describe how incredibly stupid his actions were.
I have been on the SECRant/Tigerdroppings a long time, I enjoy reading other fans opinions and enjoy criticizing those opinions even more.
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 6:25 pm to SLC
SLC, it's all good. Believe it or not I actually feel for you guys. You all don't deserve this crap. It's really tough when you are in the middle do spring practice, coming off a really good year, and looking forward to a great year coming up, to have this come up. It truly sucks for you guys.
I'm the last person that can point fingers and pull the morality card so I'm not. I'm strictly looking at this from a legal/HR point of view. I just don't see how he can survive it. His actions have really opened up a can of legal worms for your University. Not just in this case, but for a lot of situations that can happen in the future.
One thing that I haven't seen too many people discuss is if they retain him how does that affect his ability to pass out punishment to his players in the future? Can a player he suspends or kicks off the team for breaking team rules have a case to sue him and the university for unfair and unbalanced treatment? The coach broke major rules, lied about it, and was retained. So why should a player get kicked off the team for doing the same? Does he have a case to go after the University for unbalanced treatment? I don't know the answers to this.
I'm the last person that can point fingers and pull the morality card so I'm not. I'm strictly looking at this from a legal/HR point of view. I just don't see how he can survive it. His actions have really opened up a can of legal worms for your University. Not just in this case, but for a lot of situations that can happen in the future.
One thing that I haven't seen too many people discuss is if they retain him how does that affect his ability to pass out punishment to his players in the future? Can a player he suspends or kicks off the team for breaking team rules have a case to sue him and the university for unfair and unbalanced treatment? The coach broke major rules, lied about it, and was retained. So why should a player get kicked off the team for doing the same? Does he have a case to go after the University for unbalanced treatment? I don't know the answers to this.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 6:37 pm to Tammany Tom
Same issues are bothering me, Tom.
I just don't see how you find another coach that is as talented as Petrino, which is the reason I think he will be retained if at all possible.
I just don't see how you find another coach that is as talented as Petrino, which is the reason I think he will be retained if at all possible.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 6:38 pm to Tammany Tom
I believe a lot depends on what Jeff Long's investigation finds out. Is this an isolated case or are there others? Has there been a history of sexual harrassment with other women? 
If this is an isolated incident, I think he survives. I find it hard to believe a $55K/year job can have damages totalling over a million bucks.
It will be interesting to find out.
I think a lot of us are like me. Pissed as hell at him. Want to keep him but he needs to be severely disciplined. Severely.
If this is an isolated incident, I think he survives. I find it hard to believe a $55K/year job can have damages totalling over a million bucks.
It will be interesting to find out.
I think a lot of us are like me. Pissed as hell at him. Want to keep him but he needs to be severely disciplined. Severely.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 6:56 pm to SLC
Here's hoping my source is right and coach is announcing his full return to the program tomorrow
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:07 pm to SLC
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Pissed as hell at him. Want to keep him but he needs to be severely disciplined. Severely
SLC, first off, I do hate this for y'all. The University, the players and the fans sure don't deserve to have this happen.
And i get wanting to retain him because he's a great coach. But how could you possibly discipline him in a way that reflects the severity of the situation? What could the University do? If any state or University employee has ever lost their job in Arkansas for similar actions, the precedent is set. Anything short of his leaving puts the University and the state in the position of treating him as an exception, and that damages them for any similar situations down the road. It goes beyond his job performance. That's why I think he'll either resign or be let go.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:16 pm to SLC
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If this is an isolated incident,
IT IS NOT!
Trust me...
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:31 pm to ArHog
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If this is an isolated incident,
IT IS NOT!
Trust me...
Really? Do tell......
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:33 pm to semotruman
So what do y'all think is gonna happen with this Trayvon Martin thing?
Word is there could be some charges filed tomorrow. Will there be justice?
Word is there could be some charges filed tomorrow. Will there be justice?
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:34 pm to semotruman
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Really? Do tell......
Some shite went down before the Cotton Bowl, all I can say at this time
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:38 pm to ArHog
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ArHog
Pm or text me.
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:38 pm to ArHog
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Some shite went down before the Cotton Bowl, all I can say at this time
That's a shame. I feel bad for his wife. Unless she's known all along and puts up with it, then it's between the two of them.
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