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re: Petrino = overrated

Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:55 am to
Posted by SwineFlu
Member since Jul 2009
1059 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:55 am to
Would one of you Mississippi fans support your argument that Nutt is recruiting better than Petrino?

Rankings? Arkansas was ranked higher than Mississippi last year according to Rivals. Hell, your top three recruits didn't even make it to campus.

What about production? Our offense is better than yours, despite all the skill guys being underclassmen and Petrino recruits. You were better than us by a single game this year and we did it on the backs of underclassmen and Juco's that Petrino brought in. You did it on the backs of a huge senior class many of whom are headed to the NFL.

How does any of that point to Nutt recruiting better?

How can you seriously believe that?

This post was edited on 1/3/10 at 1:56 am
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:02 am to
quote:

Hell, your top three recruits didn't even make it to campus.

That's just false, buddy.
Three of our top recruits weren't on the team at one point in time, yes.
But, one didn't make it.
One had a medical condition and is back with the team, and One withdrew from the university but might come back next year.
Posted by SwineFlu
Member since Jul 2009
1059 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:06 am to
quote:

That's just false, buddy.
Three of our top recruits weren't on the team at one point in time, yes.
But, one didn't make it.
One had a medical condition and is back with the team, and One withdrew from the university but might come back next year.


We all know it will be a shock to see either Tig or Drummond on the field.


But whatever, even assume they come back. Care to address the overall point of my post? How in the world can you claim Nutt is recruiting better than Petrino?
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:08 am to
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We all know it will be a shock to see either Tig

Tig Broke of a 50 yard touchdown run in practice. He had a miracle recovery and is back on the team.

Drummond might never see the field, but it's not like Nutt was recruiting players that didn't have the grades to get in.

There's a difference.
Posted by SwineFlu
Member since Jul 2009
1059 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:15 am to
I thought Tig was a safety?

But again...whatever.


Why do you refuse to address the "Nutt is recruiting better than Petrino" line that Mississippi fans like to say so often?
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 3:44 am to
If, after 10 years, Petrino has yet to win an SEC title then Arkansas fans will likely have grown tired of him.

Like wmr is saying, consistent progress is pretty much the only expectation I have for Petrino. 5-7, 8-5, etc, etc. If we get to 9 wins next year, great. If we only get to 8, I'd hope there were some extenuating circumstances that were behind that.

As for recruiting, like most sane, intelligent people can comprehend...there's still a month til signing day. STFU and let the chips fall before you start talking shite about Ole Miss recruiting. What was OM's rivals ranking at this point LAST year? Oh yeah. Forgot about that one, douche bags?

Oh, and the WAY Petrino recruits, regardless of stars, has made Arkansas a better program. No more signing 8 WR's in one class just because you found 8 that wanted to sign. No more signing 10 athletes and saying, "oh he can play WR, QB, RB, S, CB, LB, or even DE!" He's going after depth, stars be damned. There are guys with STARS that we could add to this class that would do nothing but hinder the progression of the program.

I'm not going to get into the Nutt debate again, but much like anyone else who has 10 years of experience in dealing with something compared to someone else that has 2, I'm confident in my position.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:08 am to
quote:

12-12 at Arky with a good chance to fall to 12-13 with a loss here to ECU of all teams. He's also just 5-11 in SEC play. Why does everyone think he's any good?


Go look at their roster, it is mostly freshmen and soph that are playing right now.

Petrino is one of the best offensive minds in the country, his weakness is his defense. If he gets a solid defense under that team and small amount of talent Ark will make a strong run at Atlanta.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48936 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:16 am to
Petrino will develop a solid defense the same year that Miles plays 15 freshmen.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:49 am to
There are rumors of the coaching staff being improved at Arkansas, we should know in a couple weeks if that will come true.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48936 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:54 am to
Good lucks to you'z Razerbacks
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:32 am to
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Petrino is one of the best offensive minds in the country, his weakness is his defense. If he gets a solid defense under that team and small amount of talent Ark will make a strong run at Atlanta.


yup, and his strong offensive mind is why he couldn't put up more than 20 pts on freakin cusa team yesterday.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48936 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:37 am to
Ba-Ba-BOOM
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:51 am to
It's funny how you guys have gotten my fellow Arkansas fans riled up.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48936 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:54 am to
I know, right?
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:28 am to
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yup, and his strong offensive mind is why he couldn't put up more than 20 pts on freakin cusa team yesterday.


How'd that LSU Ark game go? I seem to remember LSU needing a last minute play to win it and that was against the worst defense in the SEC. Petrino is playing mostly sophs on the team that will give you an idea of where the talent and experienc level of Ark is.

Petrino can only call the plays he can't execute them and mallet is a solid QB but he needs work still that is why I don't think he'll go this year.
This post was edited on 1/3/10 at 11:30 am
Posted by southarktiger
Member since Aug 2008
748 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:44 am to
Maybe Petrino is overrated, maybe he is not. Only time will tell about that and he is only two years into his job at Arky, so it's hard to say too much about his performance thus far. Petrino inherited a different program than Nutt did when he took over. My opinion of Nutt is that he is a good coach, not a great coach. He likes the old school running game, which unfortunatly is boring as hell. I think Nutt got tired of the constant interference for the great coach on the hill telling him how to run his program and finally just said frick it, I'll continue to take their money till they run me off. At this point he did the bare minimum to keep his job. Long is in charge now with Petrino at the helm, but the great coach still breathes, so time will tell. Petrino has already gave the fans something Nutt wasn't giving, HOPE. Before Petrino, some of the fans I know would do yard work while listening to games, now they want to watch it on TV. They are excited about the direction the program is heading. Petrino has a lot of high hurdles to clear as far as recruiting is concerned. Can he do it? Only time will tell.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:47 am to
quote:

southarktiger


Quit being reasonable.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48936 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:48 am to
Nutt has given Ole Miss hope. Got to love college football
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:52 am to
Yeah, time will tell.

We are one of the youngest teams in the country this year, and we went 8-5.

Thats about what I expected, especially with the schedule we played: @Bama, @UF, @Miss, @LSU.

Its too early to call Petrino overrated, and its too early to say he'll never succeed at Arkansas.

Our statistics have improved since day one, even though we had a crappy game last night in a ghetto bowl.

Posted by southarktiger
Member since Aug 2008
748 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 11:52 am to
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SLC


LOL
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