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re: Percentage of TAMU cadets that serve in the military?

Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:07 pm to
Why people like to hate on the military, I’ll never understand. Does everyone in Mississippi feel the way you do? There are some absolute bad arse special forces members that were in the Corps of Cadets. I thank them, and any other institution that can claim even one enlisted member. Uniting as Americans, especially when so many Marxists want to see this country fail, is important. Threads like these make me sad. Never thought Mississippi was California-light.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:07 pm to
Yeah it was 2 years of JROTC in high school that guaranteed E2.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:08 pm to
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quote: Eagle Scouts can enlist straight into E-3 pay grade. Seriously?


It doesn’t matter, they can be spotted from a mile away and are still treated like the boots they are.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
22871 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:10 pm to
I'll never understand how so many posters on this board are so eager to denigrate the military contribution of the school that commissions more officers than any school outside the academies.

Some just do D&C and don't commission. So what? Same thing happens at The Citadel and VMI. It's still an experience that instills some solid values.

Of all the things you could ridicule A&M for, I just don't get this one.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:10 pm to
There were no worse officers to serve with than A&M grads. Combine Texas arrogance with a crippling Little Brother Syndrome (this time Annapolis grads instead of Longhorns) and you have your basic USMC Aggie. If I heard, "That's not the way we did it in the Corps of Cadets" I think I would have fragged someone.

VMI and Citadel guys were laid back. They knew all the bullshite they went through was just that - bullshite. A&Mers spent half their time Hullabaloo Caneck Canecking and the other half trying to win USNA guys' approval.
Posted by ludawg
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:12 pm to
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Why people like to hate on the military, I’ll never understand. Does everyone in Mississippi feel the way you do?


How did you come to that conclusion reading my OP and subsequent posts?
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
22871 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Thanks. Good info. Which two of the five service academies are capped?


Well, Imma go out on a limb and guess it's the two that don't actually commission military officers at all.

Coasties and Merchant Marine are not military. Very different experience at these academies.

ETA: Well, maybe not so different from the Chair Force Academy, but I digress.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:15 pm to
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There were no worse officers to serve with than A&M grads. Combine Texas arrogance with a crippling Little Brother Syndrome (this time Annapolis grads instead of Longhorns) and you have your basic USMC Aggie. If I heard, "That's not the way we did it in the Corps of Cadets" I think I would have fragged someone.


That's pretty much consistent across the board until officers make O3. At that point, any advantage you might have had coming in is gone.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
8862 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:17 pm to
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t is about as relevant as becoming an eagle scout


Eagle Scouts learn some useful skills, plus it develops their leadership abilities. I wouldn’t compare the two. Plus, the military actually recognizes Eagle Scouts with a pay rank bump up.

Makes you wonder about schools like VMI and the Citadel. I know several VMI grads. None were in the military.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:18 pm to
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From the numbers above, it looks more like a cheer/social club than a serious path to military service. Probably are taught some good life skills and have the option to accept a commission, but it looks like most do not.


You obviously have never been to College Station and watched the cadets do their physical training after classes. It isn't an easy life or way to get an education and you should read Douglas MacArthur's quote about Texas Aggies.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Plus, the military actually recognizes Eagle Scouts with a pay rank bump up.


You can complete a 4 day training program with your local recruiting station and get the same benefit going in. Before you attempt to dispute this, I commanded a Recruiting Company for 2 years so I'm pretty sure I know how the process works.

The highest rank you can enter as enlisted without prior service is E4, and that requires a bachelor's degree or higher.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Douglas MacArthur's quote about Texas Aggies.


Never heard of the MacArthur quote. I have heard about the Patton quote that hasn't been attributed to any one person by name.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
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It doesn’t matter, they can be spotted from a mile away and are still treated like the boots they are.
quote:

boot
User name checks out
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30687 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
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Yeah it was 2 years of JROTC in high school that guaranteed E2.




Yeah, JROTC.

It's funny, we had a rifle range and they kept the rifles(.22) at the school.

Things sure have changed.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:23 pm to
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I know several VMI grads. None were in the military.
The only one I know that is actually in the mil is a full bird.

So when they actually do join, my sample size of 1 indicates they do pretty well.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
22871 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Never heard of the MacArthur quote. I have heard about the Patton quote that hasn't been attributed to any one person by name.


I'm not sure any of them have been credibly attributed to any of these guys.

I just go by the immense respect and deference accorded to them by George Washington himself.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Yeah, JROTC.

It's funny, we had a rifle range and they kept the rifles(.22) at the school.

Things sure have changed.

We had M1 Garands for drill but they weren't able to fire or anything. This was roughly 20 years ago.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:26 pm to
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Gen. Douglas MacArthur, who evacuated to Australia during the siege, told A&M president T.O. Walton early on during the war, “A&M is writing its military history in the blood of its graduates, not only in the Philippines campaign but on the active fronts of the Southwest Pacific.” In the Corps of Cadets’ Standard, MacArthur goes on to say, “No name stands out more brilliantly than the heroic defender of Corregidor, General George F. Moore. Whenever I see a Texas man in my command, I have a feeling of confidence.”
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:28 pm to
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TeLeFaWx
Upvote. One of the few times you and I are in complete agreement.

Don't make a habit of this.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Which two of the five service academies are capped?


Probably the two that don't commission Title X forces. Coast Guard and Merchant Marine are not DoD. They are DHS.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 4:30 pm
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