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re: Per Rivals - Auburn has signed only one 5 star in the last 4 recruiting classes
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:52 pm to remaster916
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:52 pm to remaster916
quote:Gus signs better overall talent than Chizik and he won't even look a the questionable character type's like Chiz signed back then.
Just checked and that 10 class was ranked 6th, the 11 class was ranked 5th.
The best class Gus has signed was 6th.
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:52 pm to Stidham8
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Stidham8
We signed two in the 2019 class
So, besides your OP just being flat our wrong, so what?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:54 pm to DawgsLife
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Hasn't he recruited pretty well, though? I mean, even though you didn't get any 5*, didn't you get a ton of good high 4* players?
Yes. I think it was last year we either set the record or were damn close to the record of total number of 4*'s in a single class.
Our problem has been OL recruiting and stubborn offensive mindset, not recruiting overall.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:57 pm to TheGusBus34
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Calvin Ashley was a 5 star
Byron Coward was a 5 star
Bo Nix was a 5 star
Derrick Brown was a 5 star
Marlon Davison was 5 star
Tank is a 5 star
Kyle Davis was a 5 star
Of those mentioned, only three (Nix, Tank, Ashley) were in our last 4 recruiting classes.
Nix was the only 5 star on Rivals.
Tank is not a 5 star on any service.
Ashley wasn’t a 5 star on rivals. He was a 5 star on 247.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Our problem has been OL recruiting and stubborn offensive mindset, not recruiting overall.
RB recruiting has been a weakness as well. And let’s not forget we haven’t recruited a successful Dual Threat QB since Nick Marshall.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:04 pm to Stidham8
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RB recruiting has been a weakness as well
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And let’s not forget we haven’t recruited a successful Dual Threat QB since Nick Marshall.
Well, we aren't trying to recruit a QB like Nick Marshall, so i'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.
I don't think recruiting is your strong suit. Maybe just abandon this thread.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:11 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
For the past two seasons we’ve had a 2 star as our starter that just transferred. Behind him was a 185 lb scat back in Kam Martin.
Maybe he should try to recruit a QB like Nick Marshall. Without him, the offense has been lost and he’s lost at least 4 games a year in the 5 seasons without him.
Without better players, Auburn will forever be a non factor in the playoff race. You’re blind to how college football works if you believe otherwise.
Maybe he should try to recruit a QB like Nick Marshall. Without him, the offense has been lost and he’s lost at least 4 games a year in the 5 seasons without him.
Without better players, Auburn will forever be a non factor in the playoff race. You’re blind to how college football works if you believe otherwise.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:16 pm to Stidham8
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For the past two seasons we’ve had a 2 star as our starter that just transferred. Behind him was a 185 lb scat back in Kam Martin.
K? So bitch about our development. Our recruiting has been fine. And you should really start using the composite rankings. Using rivals makes you look sillier than you are.
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Maybe he should try to recruit a QB like Nick Marshall. Without him, the offense has been lost and he’s lost at least 4 games a year in the 5 seasons without him
K, when you find one like him, let me know. You can agree with it or not all you want, but Gus does not want to run a pure zone read offense. Again, this isn't a recruiting issue, stop trying to make it one.
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Without better players, Auburn will forever be a non factor in the playoff race. You’re blind to how college football works if you believe otherwise.
Well, besides the fact you clearly have no real understanding of recruiting, you've yet to make a point that is actually based around how well we do in recruiting. You can complain all you want on how we develop our players, that has left plenty to be desired.
Just walk away man, you're making a giant fool out of yourself.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:22 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
RB Recruiting last 4 classes:
Tank Bigsby - 4*
MAR - 4*
DJ Williams - 4*
Harold Joiner - 4*
Asa Martin -4*
Shaun Shivers - 4*
Devan Barrett - 4*
JaTarvious Whitlow - 3*
Alaric Williams - 4* (DNQ)
So, tell me again how we struggled recruiting at RB?
Tank Bigsby - 4*
MAR - 4*
DJ Williams - 4*
Harold Joiner - 4*
Asa Martin -4*
Shaun Shivers - 4*
Devan Barrett - 4*
JaTarvious Whitlow - 3*
Alaric Williams - 4* (DNQ)
So, tell me again how we struggled recruiting at RB?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:23 pm to Stidham8
Makes sense. Nobody ruins 5 stars like Auburn. This was how the last 12 composite 5 stars at AU did
A 3rd round pick
A 4th Round pick
A 7th round pick
And 9 Undrafted/Transfers
^current players not included
A 3rd round pick
A 4th Round pick
A 7th round pick
And 9 Undrafted/Transfers
^current players not included
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:25 pm to Stidham8
Fire Gus Malzahn
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:26 pm to Glorious
We have a knack for finding the 5*'s that have character issues/work ethic issues. It really is astounding how few of them ever really even sniff the field that we sign.
Trovon Reed (though only a 5* on one site I believe) should have been moved to CB so much earlier.
Trovon Reed (though only a 5* on one site I believe) should have been moved to CB so much earlier.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:27 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Lol, development? Kam Martin wasn’t developed into a 215 lb elite running back capable of breaking tackles? That’s rich.
That’s what happens when you get schooled by your major rivals for elite players. You get stuck with the 4 and 3 star scraps.
I’ve watched multiple elite dual threat QB’s over the last few seasons. Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields were both two hours from our campus and we whiffed on both of them.
It’s not hard to understand having one 5 star compared to your major rivals having ~15 a piece equals having no chance at the playoffs.
You think it’s just a coincidence that since 2014 Gus is 1-6 against Georgia, 0-2 against Clemson, 2-4 against LSU, and 2-4 against Alabama? The massive 5 star discrepancy has nothing to do with it I guess.
That’s what happens when you get schooled by your major rivals for elite players. You get stuck with the 4 and 3 star scraps.
I’ve watched multiple elite dual threat QB’s over the last few seasons. Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields were both two hours from our campus and we whiffed on both of them.
It’s not hard to understand having one 5 star compared to your major rivals having ~15 a piece equals having no chance at the playoffs.
You think it’s just a coincidence that since 2014 Gus is 1-6 against Georgia, 0-2 against Clemson, 2-4 against LSU, and 2-4 against Alabama? The massive 5 star discrepancy has nothing to do with it I guess.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:29 pm to Stidham8
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You think it’s just a coincidence that since 2014 Gus is 1-6 against Georgia, 0-2 against Clemson, 2-4 against LSU, and 2-4 against Alabama? The massive 5 star discrepancy has nothing to do with it I guess.
There's an Auburn poster that is completely convinced that the Georgia record is due to something magical about the SEC West and the month of November. Don't bother telling him that Auburn has a far better winning percentage against the West than the East over the past 20 years.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:30 pm to Stidham8
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Lol, development? Kam Martin wasn’t developed into a 215 lb elite running back capable of breaking tackles? That’s rich.
What the frick are you talking about? Do you have a learning disability?
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That’s what happens when you get schooled by your major rivals for elite players. You get stuck with the 4 and 3 star scraps.
We've recruited 1, count it 1, 3* running back over the last 4 cycles. You need help.
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It’s not hard to understand that landing one 5 star compared to your Rivals having ~15 a piece equals having no chance at the playoffs.
Yea, this isn't why we aren't making the playoffs. Stop being so obtuse.
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I’ve watched multiple elite dual threat QB’s over the last few season. Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields were both two hours from our campus and we whiffed on both of them.
Neither of which are like Nick Marshall. Care to try again?
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You think it’s just a coincidence that since 2014 Gus is 1-6 against Georgia, 0-2 against Clemson, 2-4 against LSU, and 2-4 against Alabama? The massive 5 star discrepancy has nothing to do with it I guess.
Again, you are either purposefully being obtuse or are truly just dumb. The level at which we are recruiting is not what is holding us back. If you truly think this, then you are just being ignorant.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:37 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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RB Recruiting last 4 classes:
Tank Bigsby - 4*
MAR - 4*
DJ Williams - 4*
Harold Joiner - 4*
Asa Martin -4*
Shaun Shivers - 4*
Devan Barrett - 4*
JaTarvious Whitlow - 3*
Alaric Williams - 4* (DNQ)
So, tell me again how we struggled recruiting at RB?
Have you not watched our RBs? They don’t make elite plays and none are on the NFLs radar. The 2 star starter just transferred after two underwhelming seasons.
We’ve sent only one RB to the NFL in the last 4 seasons (Kerryon).
Meanwhile in recent years our rivals have sent Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Clyde Edwards Helaire, Sony Michel, Nick Chubb, Deandre Swift, Todd Gurley, Derrick Henry, Damien Harris, Josh Jacobs, Bo Scarbrough, Kenyan Drake, and TJ Yeldon.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:39 pm to Stidham8
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Have you not watched our RBs? They don’t make elite plays and none are on the NFLs radar. The 2 star starter just transferred after two underwhelming seasons.
Again, let me point you back to my last statement, you simple child:
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K? So bitch about our development.Our recruiting has been fine
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We’ve sent only one RB to the NFL in the last several seasons (Kerryon).
Again, let me point you back to my last statement, you simple child:
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K? So bitch about our development.Our recruiting has been fine
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Our rivals have sent Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Clyde Edwards Helaire, Sony Michel, Nick Chubb, Deandre Swift, Todd Gurley, Derrick Henry, Damien Harris, Josh Jacobs, Bo Scarbrough, Kenyan Drake, and TJ Yeldon.
Again, let me point you back to my last statement, you simple child:
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K? So bitch about our development.Our recruiting has been fine
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:39 pm to ValDawgsta
The wear and tear of the West has an effect in November. It is amazing how the West has dominated the SECG based on the gauntlet of the West, but I guess that show the superiority of those teams.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:41 pm to ValDawgsta
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ValDawgsta
So, you're in the camp that Clemson's softer schedule doesn't benefit them when it comes to post season time? Interesting.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:48 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
You seriously think our RB recruiting is fine and they’re just not developed? LOL
They’re a bunch of lower ranked guys that have no chance at the NFL.
Our rivals routinely get the 5 and high 4 star guys and send them to the league.
Our depth chart meanwhile has been Boobie Whitlow (2 star that transferred), Kam Martin (185lb low ranked 4 star), and low ranked 4 star Shaun shivers (5 foot 7).
They’re a bunch of lower ranked guys that have no chance at the NFL.
Our rivals routinely get the 5 and high 4 star guys and send them to the league.
Our depth chart meanwhile has been Boobie Whitlow (2 star that transferred), Kam Martin (185lb low ranked 4 star), and low ranked 4 star Shaun shivers (5 foot 7).
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 3:49 pm
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