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re: On Mizzou's Soft Schedule.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:37 am to RamboMizzou
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:37 am to RamboMizzou
Ranking at the time of the game is almost entirely meaningless.
Missouri took care of business and should be commended.
But don't defend the indefensible. Mizzou has had a very very easy SEC schedule the last 2 years.
They took advantage of it. Good for them. Be happy, brag, I would.
But don't try to defend your schedule, when everyone knows FOR A FACT, because of the stats posted in MANY THREADS, that Mizzou had one of (if not the easiest) the easiest schedules in the entire conference the past 2 years.
Missouri took care of business and should be commended.
But don't defend the indefensible. Mizzou has had a very very easy SEC schedule the last 2 years.
They took advantage of it. Good for them. Be happy, brag, I would.
But don't try to defend your schedule, when everyone knows FOR A FACT, because of the stats posted in MANY THREADS, that Mizzou had one of (if not the easiest) the easiest schedules in the entire conference the past 2 years.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:44 am to UltimateHog
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Mizzou has an extremely soft schedule. And they refuse to play a high level OOC game like the other top SEC teams do.
Which one was Arky's strong OOC game? Was it the 4-8 Red Raiders or Northern Illinois, the team with the same MAC record as Toledo?
At least Mizzou had UCF on their schedule.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
Fair enough, but the dislike for Mizzou stems from several reasons and beating Bama and being SEC champs won't change them.
1. Everyone thought they were adding another doormat. No idea why, but they did.
2. We aren't southern (derp)
3. Blue blood programs do not like non blue blood programs having success. A Cinderella season? Sure, that's a nice story but sustained success is not something they want to see.
4. Jealousy. Non blue blood programs like seeing our success even less. Their pissed they aren't doing what we are doing. So of course...we're lucky or whatever else they want to say.
Winning Saturday makes 3 of those issues worse, and the other is never going to change.
1. Everyone thought they were adding another doormat. No idea why, but they did.
2. We aren't southern (derp)
3. Blue blood programs do not like non blue blood programs having success. A Cinderella season? Sure, that's a nice story but sustained success is not something they want to see.
4. Jealousy. Non blue blood programs like seeing our success even less. Their pissed they aren't doing what we are doing. So of course...we're lucky or whatever else they want to say.
Winning Saturday makes 3 of those issues worse, and the other is never going to change.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:51 am to UltimateHog
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You only played 1 this year and lost 34-0.
Rest of the SEC played on average 5, in the West on average 6. You played ONE.
It's about the OOC more than anything anyways, Mizzou needs to schedule a big OOC series/game like most others do.
Check to see if there was a number by USC when we played them. I seem to remember a 12 or 13.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:52 am to slayerxing
just going back over every SEC teams' OOC schedule this year: One glaring stat... the only team in the west to play a true road game against a quality opponent was Auburn@Kansas st. The SEC east played a much more challenging OOC schedule overall than did the west this year with a large proportion of those games being true road games. props to LSU for a good neutral site win over Wisconsin and Bama for their neutral site win over an average WVU team this year... but the rest of the west didn't play anyone in the non conference. Miss St.'s non conf schedule was utterly laughable...
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:52 am to RamboMizzou
I agree, it's getting old now. Can't we all just get used to Mizzou being a good team? Pinkel wins all of the games they should win and then some (sans Indiana).
Pinkel is a top 3 coach in the SEC, and should be SEC coach of the year.
Pinkel is a top 3 coach in the SEC, and should be SEC coach of the year.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:55 am to Mizzourah2006
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Which one was Arky's strong OOC game? Was it the 4-8 Red Raiders or Northern Illinois, the team with the same MAC record as Toledo?
At least Mizzou had UCF on their schedule.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
NIU is going to the MAC championship, and going for it's 5th straight conference title. TTech was bad this year, but no one thought that was a cupcake game. They're usually a middle of the pack team. Arkansas wasn't favored in that game.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:58 am to digitalis
correct on both accounts... and you guys had no way of knowing that Texas Tech was not going to be very good when you scheduled them. you play the schedule you are given.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:01 am to digitalis
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NIU is going to the MAC championship, and going for it's 5th straight conference title. TTech was bad this year, but no one thought that was a cupcake game. They're usually a middle of the pack team. Arkansas wasn't favored in that game.
Toledo has the same MAC record and lost the tiebreaker, so I wouldn't say NIU is a solid game and Toledo isn't. That's like saying Georgia is a solid game and Mizzou isn't. Plus we played Toledo on the road.
So you get Tech being typically a solid team and won't give us playing the team that won the Fiesta Bowl last year.....
Seems reasonable.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:05 am to Mizzourah2006
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Toledo has the same MAC record and lost the tiebreaker, so I wouldn't say NIU is a solid game and Toledo isn't. That's like saying Georgia is a solid game and Mizzou isn't. Plus we played Toledo on the road.
So you get Tech being typically a solid team and won't give us playing the team that won the Fiesta Bowl last year.....
Seems reasonable.
I don't see anything wrong with Mizzou's schedule this year.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:10 am to digitalis
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I don't see anything wrong with Mizzou's schedule this year.
The only thing wrong with our schedule this year is that we didn't win all the games that we scheduled. saying that though... I'd still like to see us get a more marquee OOC match up though.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:12 am to kevind1965
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The only thing wrong with our schedule this year is that we didn't win all the games that we scheduled. saying that though... I'd still like to see us get a more marquee OOC match up though.
I'd like to keep UCF. 1. They are an up and coming team that is starting to pull recruits in the Central Florida area and 2. Because I got my PhD from there so I get to see both of my alma maters play on a yearly basis :)
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:19 am to Mizzourah2006
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I'd like to keep UCF
me too... I live 20 minutes from the stadium and would get a chance to see the Tigers in person again every once in a while.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:28 am to JesusQuintana
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Fair enough, but the dislike for Mizzou stems from several reasons and beating Bama and being SEC champs won't change them.
1. Everyone thought they were adding another doormat. No idea why, but they did.
2. We aren't southern (derp)
3. Blue blood programs do not like non blue blood programs having success. A Cinderella season? Sure, that's a nice story but sustained success is not something they want to see.
4. Jealousy. Non blue blood programs like seeing our success even less. Their pissed they aren't doing what we are doing. So of course...we're lucky or whatever else they want to say.
Winning Saturday makes 3 of those issues worse, and the other is never going to change.
I agree with most of these. I think a lot of the backlash against Missouri lately is that everyone wants a great team to come out of the East every year. With the division being down, the hate has to go somewhere. I see Missouri being a very consistent program in the SEC - beating the teams they should, and stealing an upset here or there. For the last two years, that has been enough to win the East.
I think some combination of UGA, TN, or UF will finally put something together in the near future, and the recruiting gap will be what keeps Missouri from making the leap to a consistently great team.
I see it going as follows - when the tide in the East rises, Missouri will fall to 2nd or third in the division. When the chips are down, Missouri will be there to clean up and win the East. They will nearly always be relevant. Sometimes they won't be the hero the East wants, but the hero the East deserves.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:48 am to ATLdawg25
Yeah, can't believe Mizzou had the audacity to weaken their schedule by playing one the B1G dregs like Indiana. They could have at least scheduled, say Minnesota or Nebraska for an OC game
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:58 am to ATLdawg25
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So much ignorance in such a small space. Kind of impressive, actually. Also what math are you using to come up with your "Missouri's hardest game was easier than 4 of TN's games" fact?
How so?
TN's third hardest game was at #6 UGA.
Which was Missouri's hardest game who they played at home (So that makes 3 harder no argument and we played you all with Gurley they didn't).
Then the only one you could argue is that @#9 Oklahoma early in the season is harder than playing UGA at home without Gurley in the mid season.
In my opinion going to the #9 teams home field is tougher than playing the #6 team at home without their best player.
But I guess that is debatable.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:00 am to GoldenFlakes
WVU is a home and home. 2016 and 2019 if memory serves.
There are several teams before the season that needed to fill their schedules like us. Those schools that had openings and were the doormats normally get around $600,000 were now wanting $1,000,000+.
Something Mizzou does that some teams in the SEC doesn't actually do (*cough*Alabama*cough*) is play true road games. Not neutral sites. The way some teams travel, this is not really a true road game even though it's listed as an Away game. Kind of gaming the system.
The BYU game next year is on a neutral site, but is in Kansas City. Not exactly a true neutral site. We are giving up a home game for it though, so I think it's fair.
There are several teams before the season that needed to fill their schedules like us. Those schools that had openings and were the doormats normally get around $600,000 were now wanting $1,000,000+.
Something Mizzou does that some teams in the SEC doesn't actually do (*cough*Alabama*cough*) is play true road games. Not neutral sites. The way some teams travel, this is not really a true road game even though it's listed as an Away game. Kind of gaming the system.
The BYU game next year is on a neutral site, but is in Kansas City. Not exactly a true neutral site. We are giving up a home game for it though, so I think it's fair.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:01 am to BigBlue8Titles
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Yeah, can't believe Mizzou had the audacity to weaken their schedule by playing one the B1G dregs like Indiana
Please tell me you forgot the sarcasm emoticon or you're worse than your football team
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:01 am to restore the roar
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Ok, Arky and TN have harder schedules overall than Mizzou. But, you may have forgotten, we BEAT you. So doesn't that sort of throw cold water on that talking point?
The argument isn't whether Missouri is better than TN or Arkansas. You all proved you were on the field.
Our argument is, if you had either of our schedules you would not be in Atlanta this weekend.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:09 am to Wtodd
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Our argument is, if you had either of our schedules you would not be in Atlanta this weekend.
That's probably fair. Kind of depends on when we play them. Clearly we'll know more about Alabama this weekend.
Ole Miss would depend on what Bo we get. Our defense has improved drastically in the second half of the season. Markus Golden is healthy.
I think like every team, injuries play a big part and when you get people back.
Miss State got schooled by Ole Miss. Ole Miss got schooled by Arkansas. So who knows? College football is funny like that since these kids are inconsistent.
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