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re: OM ought to stop feeding the bear

Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:23 am to
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:23 am to
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Suspension for conduct detrimental to the team is not the same as firing. No different than sexual assault allegations and no burden of proof necessary by the university


I am no Kiffin fan but this is horseshite.

Go into your office and suggest that management suspend a high performer because there are rampant rumors that other employers are contacting his agent to try to hire him away.

More likely you are the one who will be run off for suggesting that.

Does OM expect Kiffin to call a press conference and say he will only leave in a pine box?

OM will be very wise to tread lightly with any thought of suspending Kiffin because they have a great deal more to lose than he does.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 1:25 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:23 am to
Ole Miss has no leverage here. Literally zero.
Posted by RebelBearShark
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2015
735 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:25 am to
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What can they really do? Suspend him and push him out? Then Ole Miss looks bad.

There is no situation where Lane leaves and is seen as the victim.

Either you are trolling or you're actually stupid.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5936 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:25 am to
The same thing every other coach does in these situations. I’m not talking about any other head coaching positions until after the season. Better yet just be honest. I might be interested in other jobs but I have a commitment to this University and the players that play for me to give them my undivided attention. I will be listening to offers but as long as we have games left here I will not be available. These players are the reason I have these opportunities and I owe it to them to be focused at my job and be 100% all in and committed to this team and this university. He could keep his family out of places that his name is connected to about an open head coaching job. I think the whole world understands that Landry is dating a LSU football player. That situation is different. Everyone else though needs to be more mindful about their movements considering the situation so the don’t put Lane in this kind of position.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:29 am to
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The same thing every other coach does in these situations.


I think coaches are notoriously dishonest about their movements. Nick Saban literally said he would not be the coach at Alabama.

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He could keep his family out of places that his name is connected to about an open head coaching job. I think the whole world understands that Landry is dating a LSU football player. That situation is different. Everyone else though needs to be more mindful about their movements considering the situation so the don’t put Lane in this kind of position.


I don't disagree with this. There are rumors that he did this as a way to "get back" at Ole Miss for trying to force him into a corner. Immature behavior, sure.

I don't think Layla and Chris' opinion on Baton Rouge matters that much.

Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
636 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:31 am to
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I don't think he believes he can actually win a championship there


Yes. And this is why he deserves the criticism. Ole Miss will be at 5-7 seed in the playoffs. Ohio State won the NC last year as an 8 seed. Never has a head coach bailed on a team with such a legit path to a championship as this. It’s telling his players he doesn’t believe in them.

It’s ok though. Karma will find a way
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:31 am to
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There is no situation where Lane leaves and is seen as the victim.

Either you are trolling or you're actually stupid.


That's a homerific take.

Let's say Ole Miss suspends Kiffin tomorrow and then Kiffin comes out and says he has not made a decision yet, that he was going to make a decision at the end of the season as he said all along, then Ole Miss absolutely looks like a clown show for forcing him out. Then they've 100% lost him and derailed the season.

Also, it'd be a legal mess.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
636 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:33 am to
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Suspend him and push him out?


Yes

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Then Ole Miss looks bad


To the national media, fans, players and coaches it would look like they got rid of the clown and the circus.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:34 am to
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Yes. And this is why he deserves the criticism. Ole Miss will be at 5-7 seed in the playoffs. Ohio State won the NC last year as an 8 seed. Never has a head coach bailed on a team with such a legit path to a championship as this. It’s telling his players he doesn’t believe in them.

It’s ok though. Karma will find a way


Has nothing to do with seeding, they'd be the least talented team to ever win a natty in the modern era. They'd have the lowest blue chip ratio to win ever.

For all this new era talk, those teams aren't winning natties yet.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:35 am to
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To the national media, fans, players and coaches it would look like they got rid of the clown and the circus.


Depends on who actually believed Kiffin had or hadn't actually made a decision.

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5936 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:38 am to
I get coaches do this all the time. All I’m saying is just bat the question to the side when it’s brought up like coaches normally do and finish the season. Then if he wants to go then he can go. If he wants to stick around for the playoff the he could. Instead of doing it that way he did it in the most disruptive way possible and let this thing get way out of hand.

I’m sure Kiffin and his wife are not dumb people. They knew what would happen if anyone outside of Landry was seen in BR or even in Gainesville for that matter. They had to know it was gonna cause a firestorm and create a distraction. Immature behavior would be an accurate way of describing it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:40 am to
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All I’m saying is just bat the question to the side when it’s brought up like coaches normally do and finish the season.


I think he generally has, other than the family taking the trips to Gainesville and Baton Rouge. That'd be the only real issue in my opinion.

He's said multiple times he'd wait to address future plans until after the season.
Posted by RebelBearShark
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2015
735 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:41 am to
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That's a homerific take.

Let's say Ole Miss suspends Kiffin tomorrow and then Kiffin comes out and says he has not made a decision yet, that he was going to make a decision at the end of the season as he said all along, then Ole Miss absolutely looks like a clown show for forcing him out. Then they've 100% lost him and derailed the season.

Also, it'd be a legal mess.

It has been well established in this thread that there would be no actions taken by anyone until after the season. Seems you are just as dishonest in your arguments as you say coaches are in their movements. Either that, or you have the memory of a goldfish.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:42 am to
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It has been well established in this thread that there would be no actions taken by anyone until after the season. Seems you are just as dishonest in your arguments as you say coaches are in their movements. Either that, or you have the memory of a goldfish.


It now seems that you are guilty of not reading what I was responding to, which was a poster not understanding why he'd be allowed to coach the Egg Bowl.

This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 1:44 am
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
636 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:44 am to
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Go into your office and suggest that management suspend a high performer because there are rampant rumors that other employers are contacting his agent to try to hire him away.


You don’t suspend him for other employers trying to contact his agent. Find something better and more legal

If Keith Carter can’t find dirt to get a guy like Kiffin suspended then he’s not good at his job. If Carter doesn’t know what Kiffin’s going to do after spending every day with him for yoga then he’s not good at his job. If i was an Ole Miss booster paying for all this i’d be pretty pissed at the AD and he would be next out the door if he can’t figure it out
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5936 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:51 am to
That is the major sin. He allowed his family to do that knowing what it would do. When people here the I will adress it after the season line then it is distracting but people have hears it so much now that it really doesn’t cause to much of an issue. What has upset the heard at Ole Miss is his family going to BR. Now the players are wondering if he is stay through the playoff and it’s turned into a mess. That’s on him. Ole Miss made a mistake by announcing publicly that he had an extension on his desk. They should have waited till the end of the year to make it public. Everyone knows that he has an offer and he is not signing it. The longer he waits the more of an issue it causes. Been best I think to wait to the regular season was over at least before announcing that.
Posted by RebelBearShark
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2015
735 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:51 am to
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It now seems that you are guilty of not reading what I was responding to, which was a poster not understanding why he'd be allowed to coach the Egg Bowl.

That's fair.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65979 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:55 am to
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
4201 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:56 am to
Pushing out the highest win% Coach in OM history is not a good longevity strategy for an AD.

Smart thing is to drop all this controversy and if Kiffin leaves the AD can rightfully claim he did everything he could to try to keep him.

All this bad publicity from the AD is bound to have the football team distracted.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
636 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 1:56 am to
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Let's say Ole Miss suspends Kiffin tomorrow and then Kiffin comes out and says he has not made a decision yet


Then the AD comes out and says your season is over. Should give you plenty of time to make a decision

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Then they've 100% lost him and derailed the season.


They wouldn’t take any action unless they already know internally he’s gone. This is likely all a dog and pony show for the public at this point

The season is already derailed. Best case scenario is you suspend him. Win the egg bowl without him. Galvanize the team and university with the victory. Lane is not apart of any of it and you get to move on BEFORE game 1 of the playoffs……Crazier things have happened than a team that was done dirty getting fired up and winning a few games in a row. All of the CFB world would be rooting for them
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