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re: Ole Miss 23-33 over the past 5 years, overrated this year
Posted on 8/15/09 at 9:34 pm to DeuceisLoose
Posted on 8/15/09 at 9:34 pm to DeuceisLoose
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By your logic, since your talent that will be doing the bulk of the playing is similar, you should win about the same or less than you did last year.
Logic...don't use words you don't understand. You better stick to words like opinion. That's all you got. LSU has had elite recruiting for most of this decade. That talent had three top five finishes before a bad (by LSU standards) season of 8 wins. We will improve based on those elite players expecting to compete at a high level and pushing each other for playing time and in some cases more talented players taking over for departed players. In addition, LSU has a new defensive staff that has proven itself in this conference. We will improve based on better coaching on that side of the ball.
Ole Miss didn't imporve in talent and your overall roster talent is likely less than last year since you lost some players that were actually drafted and you don't recruit at an NFL talent level on a yearly basis. In addition, your coaching is the same so no improvement in that area. The idea that ole miss will be better just becasue they will take that next step when they have never taken that next step and have not recruited on a consistant level to fill in for players that got them to the previous step is flawed logic.
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Posted on 8/15/09 at 9:44 pm to DeuceisLoose
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deuceisloose
Sneed is gonna catch a beating this year...and not just by LSU
we'll see who shits what
Posted on 8/15/09 at 10:13 pm to dkreller
Ole Miss will go 8-4. They are Missouri '08. They are coming off a Cotton Bowl win and are overhyped with this being their one big chance to be a contending team. Because of this, their fans are overrating them. They will have a good year by OM standards, but it will be a big letdown for their fanbase.
Posted on 8/15/09 at 11:49 pm to XbengalTiger
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Your coaching staff didn't improve from last year and your talent didn't improve from last year so basically y'all are being hyped to rise to a level never achieved by ole miss for no good reason.
A couple of things. Our coaching staff did a great job last year. The best job in the SEC imo outside of Alabama. Second, so players don't get better over the off-season? By your logic, shouldn't LSU suck next year? I know, I know, recruiting. Unless you think your freshman class is the answer, I don't see why you think LSU is going to be so good. Great recruiting is all about having more depth. So LSU will survive injuries much better.
You miss the bigger picture. First year teams with a coach tend to really improve as the players learn the system. By the end of the year you see what's really there. Hence why Arkansas was playing a lot better near the end. That team that was dominating teams at the end of the season is back for the most part. Jerry and Oher are big losses yes, but those are it. Still have Greg Hardy, the best defensive end in the SEC. We have Snead, one of the top five quarterbacks in the nation this year.
So basically,
Stupid Corndog
This post was edited on 8/15/09 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:01 am to Duke
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I don't see why you think LSU is going to be so good.
Think he was trying to say our defense will be better because of better coaching and based on all three of their track records, I'd be shocked if we we're not improved. The biggest question is how much.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 3:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I say 6-6 this year, final.
Good call, broski.
I love how you set up your argument.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 9:48 am to Duke
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By your logic, shouldn't LSU suck next year?
Try and keep up Duke. You are late to the party this has been addressed.
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That team that was dominating teams at the end of the season is back for the most part. Jerry and Oher are big losses yes
Exactly. That team is not back. Losing 2 NFL quality lineman plus other starters on a team that does not plug in NFL caliber talent is being glossed over by the ole miss fans. Not to mention the fact that getting hyped up by the media will put a target on your team. In the end you are a 8-9 win team once again.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:16 pm to XbengalTiger
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Losing 2 NFL quality lineman plus other starters on a team that does not plug in NFL caliber talent
According to the "rankings" Peria Jerry wasn't NFL talent when he was recruited; only a 3-star, as I recall. Same with Greg Hardy, and McCluster. Hell, Patrick Willis was a 2-star player, before going on to win a Butkus and then NFL Defensive ROY.
These people who obsess with "star rankings" and think that is all it takes to creat a competitve football squad, are really funny.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 4:42 pm to XbengalTiger
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Try and keep up Duke. You are late to the party this has been addressed.
Right, and I explained why your explanation is wrong. Try and keep up.
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Losing 2 NFL quality lineman plus other starters on a team that does not plug in NFL caliber talent is being glossed over by the ole miss fans.
Losses we can fill with SEC quality players though, and holes we did fill with those. The core of the team is coming back. No other team in the west can say that. The core of a team playing very very well at the end of last season. We still have the most important piece at Quarterback. So, if you don't see the reason why people think we're going to be good, you're trying not to.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 4:49 pm to Duke
Sneed is a very talented QB that scares me....hopefully our new coaches will have our defense in the right place
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:33 pm to XbengalTiger
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If you think just becasue you had a handfull of players pan out and have some talent on your starting 22 that you can't be beat than you are a fricking tard. I can't wait to see Tennessee stomp a fricking mudhole in the weebles arse and watch the Old Ball Coach outcoach peaNUTT with similar talent. You guys have bought into the hype... hook, line and sinker and it's going to be great watching the house of cards come down.
OK once again you have pretty much no good points. Tennessee? Seriously, at least go with South Carolina or Vandy who have a bad habit of beating us when we have a superior team, or maybe even Arkansas who is bound to upset one of the big 3, even if its most likely yall, which would be fricking hilarious. Secondly if you are gong to use a derogatory term for us, go with Ole Piss, since webels is for fricking Hawgtards and misspelling it makes you look even stupider. Its a much safer guess that you are a retard since you provide pretty much no good reasoning to back your reasoning.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:37 pm to XbengalTiger
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No bama has more talent becasue auburn has an insane amount of attrition and he used signing day rosters to compile the information. I know this is not an exact science but I'm just trying to show that ole miss plays 5 teams that have recruited better than them over the last 4 years and another is right there with them. These ole miss fans around here that act like they can't be beat by anyone outside the top 10 are crazy.
Also bama's score is being hurt by their class 4 years ago. Once that one drops off, they will be right at the top of the ranking. Bama is playing alot of younger players from their higher ranked classes so they are an acception to his system that is ranking a class for bama that did not produce very many starters on your team.
Seriously, you are the worst kind of fan: the extremely stupid one who just spits out shite without having any facts to back them up. Ole Miss has had very good recruiting, and just because we don't have that many "5 star" high school recruits doesn't mean shite. Nothing. Nadda. Zip. Patrick Willis and Michael Oher were 3 star recruits, and that didn't matter in the slightest on how well they played in college.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:41 pm to XbengalTiger
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You had enough talent to win 8 regular season games. Period. You lost some good players on that team and Ole Miss does not recruit on a level to simply plug in the next stud like bama, uga, lsu or uf. Your coaching staff didn't improve from last year and your talent didn't improve from last year so basically y'all are being hyped to rise to a level never achieved by ole miss for no good reason. My post has logic. Your notion that ole miss will win the SEC this year shows you are the one with the dim bulb.
I would love to know where it is, because I see none. Ole Miss has momentum going into this season, something yall lack (winning one game isn't a roll). There is no logic in your stupid points. Here's your logic: They are Ole Miss and they only have like 2 good players and they will be much worse this year. Thats not logic; that is just being biased as frick and failing to look at the whole picture.
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The fact that you think a grammar error proves anything and that you beat your chest for discovering one such error on my post does go a long way in understanding your mental midget mindset.
A mental midget mindset is not looking at all the facts and just seeing it from their own extremely biased and stupid perspective.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:44 pm to dkreller
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dkreller
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ole miss fans think that since they finally beat LSU (and we are the shite) they can win it all
You are probably even dumber than Bengal is since he at least puts some effort in his points. Your point is: "they are Ole Miss, and they can't go to Atlanta. LSU, despite not having a single point why we'll go, will go to Atlanta."
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:52 pm to XbengalTiger
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Logic...don't use words you don't understand. You better stick to words like opinion. That's all you got. LSU has had elite recruiting for most of this decade. That talent had three top five finishes before a bad (by LSU standards) season of 8 wins. We will improve based on those elite players expecting to compete at a high level and pushing each other for playing time and in some cases more talented players taking over for departed players. In addition, LSU has a new defensive staff that has proven itself in this conference. We will improve based on better coaching on that side of the ball.
Ole Miss didn't imporve in talent and your overall roster talent is likely less than last year since you lost some players that were actually drafted and you don't recruit at an NFL talent level on a yearly basis. In addition, your coaching is the same so no improvement in that area. The idea that ole miss will be better just becasue they will take that next step when they have never taken that next step and have not recruited on a consistant level to fill in for players that got them to the previous step is flawed logic.
Notre Dame has a pretty bad arse recruiting program as well, and they haven't won a bowl game since 1994 (last year doesn't count since they were 6-6 and wouldn't have gone to a bowl if they were any other team in the nation). The thing you can't wrap your head around is that in the long run the number of stars each recruit has doesn't matter that much in the long run. A 3 star can easily be better than a 5 star in college or the NFL.
And you act like Ole Miss is completely depleted of great players, which makes you far more stupid. I really hopethat all your coaching staff, players, and fans have the same mentality as you do, since it will mean an easy victory again this year. If they are smarter than you are (which isn't saying much), they will not underestimate us.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:53 pm to dkreller
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Sneed is gonna catch a beating this year...and not just by LSU
we'll see who shits what
More flawless logic by dkreller.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:55 pm to XbengalTiger
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Exactly. That team is not back. Losing 2 NFL quality lineman plus other starters on a team that does not plug in NFL caliber talent is being glossed over by the ole miss fans. Not to mention the fact that getting hyped up by the media will put a target on your team. In the end you are a 8-9 win team once again.
Please keep telling yourself that. It will be so much sweeter to see all yall come into Oxford cocky as hell just to see your ridiculously low expectations for how bad the rebels are being shattered.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:57 pm to TeeteringBrink
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According to the "rankings" Peria Jerry wasn't NFL talent when he was recruited; only a 3-star, as I recall. Same with Greg Hardy, and McCluster. Hell, Patrick Willis was a 2-star player, before going on to win a Butkus and then NFL Defensive ROY.
These people who obsess with "star rankings" and think that is all it takes to creat a competitve football squad, are really funny.
Yeah theoretically, Notre Dame should be in a BCS Bowl every year if recruiting 4-5 star players mattered that much.
Posted on 9/24/09 at 10:22 pm to XbengalTiger
quote:1 down....three to go.
I think ole miss goes 8-4(4-4) and may get their 9th win in a bowl game it they get a favorable matchup. I have them losing to USCe, Arkansas, Tennessee and LSU.
This post was edited on 9/25/09 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/24/09 at 10:30 pm to msukb79
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Ole Miss' nonconference would be towards the bottom of the list in the FBS.
SELA is the shiznits
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