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Officiating isn't easy
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:47 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:47 am
but what needs to stop are the flags for shite that didn't happen. I can accept a missed call here and there. That's life. However, throwing flags for penalties that never occurred hurts the integrity of the game.
Some of it can be attributed to having too many rules (horsecollar) that make refs trigger-happy. It's complicating the game and creating the issues that we're talking about now.
Some of it can be attributed to having too many rules (horsecollar) that make refs trigger-happy. It's complicating the game and creating the issues that we're talking about now.
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:49 am to Faurot fodder
You mean like targeting?
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:53 am to MtVernon
Yes
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:00 am to Faurot fodder
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but what needs to stop are the flags for shite that didn't happen
Most people would think it’s this way, as it should be. The presumption of innocence is foundational to our society. But it’s actually not a principal for referees, at least it’s not in college football. I remember 10 or 15 years ago Rogers Redding was being interviewed during a game and he was discussing some of these issues and he said, and this nearly an exact quote here:
“We talk about this with our crews all summer: when in doubt, call the penalty. Make sure the rules are being enforced.”
Already having completed the thought in my head assuming he was going to say the exact opposite of what he did, I just remember being floored by the second part of the sentence. That right there is the principal they seek to instill.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:06 am to Faurot fodder
Be nice if coaches could use replay flags to dispute questionable penalties.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:08 am to Faurot fodder
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what needs to stop are the flags for shite that didn't happen
Also among the most frustrating are play-stoppage reviews after a huge momentum shifting play.
Adrenaline is pumping, the crowd is going ballistic, and after an excruciating, seemingly several minute wait, the referees come back with, "the ruling on the field is confirmed, carry on," and by that time you've lost most of the peak energy you just gained.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:11 am to Faurot fodder
they need to do more to make this less of a judgement call.
and for subjective plays the governing body (ncaa or NFL not conferences ) They should also publish clear examples for every play what is and isn’t a panel, catch etc…
and for subjective plays the governing body (ncaa or NFL not conferences ) They should also publish clear examples for every play what is and isn’t a panel, catch etc…
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:11 am to thatthang
That's a problem. The people that make these rules are more culpable than the refs throwing these flags on doubtful plays.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:14 am to Faurot fodder
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:14 am to Faurot fodder
I agree with all the comments, but I have an old-timer yell at the sky comment.
I don't like how instant replay has redefined what is a touchdown. "Back in my day"... you had to get your arse in the end zone. At the very minimum, you had to slam the ball across the line before any body part the ground.
Today we watch these damn replays to see if the ball broke the damn plane on a full body extension, or as the runner goes out of bounds in front of the corner flag.
Any kind of touchdown ruling that requires replay is gay. Get the ball in dammit. No more of this reachy reachy and then let's watch the film.
Gimme a break. Score a touchdown! Get in!
I don't like how instant replay has redefined what is a touchdown. "Back in my day"... you had to get your arse in the end zone. At the very minimum, you had to slam the ball across the line before any body part the ground.
Today we watch these damn replays to see if the ball broke the damn plane on a full body extension, or as the runner goes out of bounds in front of the corner flag.
Any kind of touchdown ruling that requires replay is gay. Get the ball in dammit. No more of this reachy reachy and then let's watch the film.
Gimme a break. Score a touchdown! Get in!
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:15 am to Faurot fodder
I think the more rules you make the harder it is to ref. If it doesn't give you a competitive edge or isn't a safety issue it shouldn't be called. A lineman twitching shouldn't be a false start. It doesn't give the lineman a competitive edge, etc etc
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:15 am to Faurot fodder
I said it in another thread and I'll say it again here. There are too many rules that are way too specific trying to catch every little situation.
Expecting the refs to remember every little detail and make that call in the moment is asking a lot. Expecting the players to do the same is insane. The sport at all levels is being broken with every additional rule.
Expecting the refs to remember every little detail and make that call in the moment is asking a lot. Expecting the players to do the same is insane. The sport at all levels is being broken with every additional rule.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:16 am to WG_Dawg
We have a clean near qb sack, therefore, Personal Foul, Roughing the QB, 15 yard penalty. It was 3rd down to boot.
Vegas says hello....
Vegas says hello....
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:19 am to WG_Dawg
There is no way that should have been a penalty. NO WAY!
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:22 am to WG_Dawg
They also called this a facemask on Kentucky. I know some folks have said "well maybe they didn't see it" but they ripped his whole damn helmet off.
Officiating quality has gotten pretty atrocious.
Officiating quality has gotten pretty atrocious.
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They missed it, it happens but would have offset, Kentucky benefitted far more from officiating than UGA did.
Let's not pretend that players don't lose their helmets alot these days without being touched.
Let's not pretend that players don't lose their helmets alot these days without being touched.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:31 am to BluegrassBelle
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They also called this a facemask on Kentucky
I think they only showed the replay once; obviously we facemasked the shite out of the ballcarrier which wasn't called, but I wonder if there was an actual facemask by UK that was called and they simply ignored the UGA one? Or if, heaven forbid, they actually called UK for the one shown by UGA and just didn't care to correct themselves?
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Officiating quality has gotten pretty atrocious.
It's awful. CFB is an industry that makes jillions of dollars so I don't know why they can't just hire and train full time refs that that's their only job. Having insurance salesmen and office managers come ref the biggest games in america on saturday is insanity.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:32 am to WG_Dawg
Kentucky blocker had our guy by the facemask for several seconds as he closed to make the tackle.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:37 am to lewis and herschel
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They missed it, it happens but would have offset, Kentucky benefitted far more from officiating than UGA did.
Which is a pretty huge deal in a 1 point game and put us back to midfield from the 30. Offsetting penalties would've been appropriate if the officiating crew was actually watching the game.
I disagree that Kentucky benefitted far more though, especially since we had a whole pick six called back with video that should have in reality not overturned what was called on the field (if you're going with the nature of the rule).
My larger point is that officiating sucks across the board. I don't care that it isn't "easy". Lots of jobs aren't "easy".
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:40 am to BluegrassBelle
Too many judgement calls in today's game.
They should work for officiating to stay out of the game.
They should work for officiating to stay out of the game.
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