Started By
Message
1
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:42 am to ThaKaptin
quote:
ThaKaptin
I have no idea what you are writing.....but, keep posting. I enjoy the avatar
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:42 am to ThaKaptin
quote:I agree. I imagine there are ways around the system. However, if AU had a good system in place and Ramsey found a way around it, then that is not on the school, it is on Ramsey (or, good for Ramsey, depending on how you want to view it).
Because there is no way he could have possibly had them sold before the season started and listed them as "friend" or "cousin". I doubt seriously they require a validated family tree for proof of relationship on these types of things.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:43 am to auburntiger77
quote:
The problem with his story about selling tickets is that player do not get the actual tickets. Instead they must put the individuals name and relationship on a list. That person then must show ID to pick them up and ensure they attended the game. So if he sold his tickets for thousands, especially to a booster, Auburn would have know to whom he sold them to..
Yeah.. there's no way around this. Not like a friend couldn't have been a middle man. That's an impossibility.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:46 am to WDE24
quote:
if AU had a good system in place and Ramsey found a way around it, then that is not on the school, it is on Ramsey
Then it's not on BAMA if they had a good system in place for textbooks but a few players found a way around it?
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:47 am to 4nmylifetime
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:47 am to ThaKaptin
quote:
Because there is no way he could have possibly had them sold before the season started and listed them as "friend" or "cousin". I doubt seriously they require a validated family tree for proof of relationship on these types of things
I agree with you that Ramsey may have lied to Auburn about the tickets. My point was that Auburn has a process to minimize this and there would be documentation.. In fact if you took the time to read it, I said this could cause Auburn problems because there is documentation (i.e. EVIDENCE)... This was the part of the show that caused me the MOST concern because if the Auburn process is broken (think textgate), then this can be tracked and proven. The rest is he said, he said. However, if it is shown that the tickets were NOT sold, then that shows that Ramsey may have been lying about EVERYTHING... This can be reviewed and should be...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:48 am to Lee County Tiger
quote:
Gay
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:48 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:That's why they got in trouble and changed their system. They didn't have a good system in place and 100's of athletes were abusing it.
Then it's not on BAMA if they had a good system in place for textbooks but a few players found a way around it?
FTR- I don't blame Bama or the Athletes for the textbook scandal. It seems a little silly.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:50 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:
Then it's not on BAMA if they had a good system in place for textbooks but a few players found a way around it?
The problem with you logic is that the NCAA said Alabama had a TERRIBLE system in place, there were limited (no) controls in place... That is why Alabama got in trouble...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:53 am to Alahunter
quote:
Maybe Ziemba is lying or is wrong, but it is silly to blindly accept Ramsey's story as true while ignoring what Ziemba says and vis a versa.
Not saying Ziemba is lying by any means. All I'm saying, is those closest to the situation are usually the last to know in many instances.
Anyone who went to college and had a roommate knew exactly the financial situation the roomie was in. There is no hiding cash from an $18 year old.
Two ppl went before microphones, for free, and said the exact opposite thing. One is lying and one is not. Ppl just have to decide who they believe, why, and who they feel is more credible.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:54 am to auburntiger77
quote:
The problem with you logic is that the NCAA said Alabama had a TERRIBLE system in place, there were limited (no) controls in place...
Link?
And the point is, if the players gamed the Auburn system for tickets, then obviously there would be comparable issues to Bama's players gaming the system for textbooks. At least to anyone not blindly defending Auburn...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:54 am to parkjas2001
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:55 am to taylormade
Is there youtube of this thing yet? I didn't watch it last night.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:57 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
I have no idea what you are writing.....but, keep posting. I enjoy the avatar
Happy to ablidge!
quote:
WDE24
I agree. I imagine there are ways around the system. However, if AU had a good system in place and Ramsey found a way around it, then that is not on the school, it is on Ramsey (or, good for Ramsey, depending on how you want to view it).
Unless the school knows they are doing it and just blindly put down any names and descriptions on the list the player tells them.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:59 am to parkjas2001
quote:
Anyone who went to college and had a roommate knew exactly the financial situation the roomie was in. There is no hiding cash from an $18 year old.
Two ppl went before microphones, for free, and said the exact opposite thing. One is lying and one is not. Ppl just have to decide who they believe, why, and who they feel is more credible.
Old habits die hard. 18 year old.. no cash needed.
And folks who share locker rooms know if someone is taking PED's, yet you hear denials when accusations are made all the time. Some of the same people bashing him are saying they were crap players in school too, after they were All SEC players. I think the believability breakdown will be.
Nation - believes
Auburn - doesn't believe
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:59 am to auburntiger77
quote:
I agree with you that Ramsey may have lied to Auburn about the tickets. My point was that Auburn has a process to minimize this and there would be documentation.. In fact if you took the time to read it, I said this could cause Auburn problems because there is documentation (i.e. EVIDENCE)... This was the part of the show that caused me the MOST concern because if the Auburn process is broken (think textgate), then this can be tracked and proven. The rest is he said, he said. However, if it is shown that the tickets were NOT sold, then that shows that Ramsey may have been lying about EVERYTHING... This can be reviewed and should be...
I see what you are saying here. Yeah, that is a problem. If they dig into that and what Ramsey said is true..... ouch.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 10:01 am to Alahunter
quote:
Bama Nation - believes
Auburn - doesn't believe
Posted on 3/31/11 at 10:04 am to parkjas2001
Auburn - doesn't believe
Rest of SEC- believes
Rest of the nation - does not really care much and the HBO numbers will show this.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 10:05 am to mgmau11
quote:
Auburn - doesn't believe
Rest of SEC- believes
Rest of the nation - does not really care much and the HBO numbers will show this.
very accurate.
Page 27 of 28
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News