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re: Offensive Coordinators -- West Edition

Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:03 pm to
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So Miles is capable of grooming a QB?


He's saying Les can't do worse than Croton.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:04 pm to
Krag is staying on to coach the qbs. And he will still be right beside the play callers in the Booth. Studrawa has a pretty decent background calling plays as well
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10697 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:05 pm to
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So Miles is capable of grooming a QB?


Honestly I don't know. But I do know he delegates and doesn't focus on one position.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37277 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:17 pm to
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Come on B, think about it. Crowtons main problem was too many Formations, too many mass substitutions, along with poor qb development and sloppy execution. We aren't changing the plays so much as we're changing the play calls.


I don't follow LSU's O close enough to know the deficiencies. Just look at the stats and have to read the complaints on this site.

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And as much as everybody loves to think we're going to all of sudden suck because of this, the fact remains that he's staying a big part of our offense


Nobody thinks LSU is gonna suck. LSU has the talent to override the lack of one coach.

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and we're still going to rape erybody in hur


Puff puff pass dude.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:22 pm to
The fact that I'm..............








Uaahhhhhhh. Smoking weed has nothing to do with my prediction. Jj has been getting exactly what he needed this year... attention. If your watch recent film on him, his mechanics have changed dramatically. And you wont see everybody running on and off the field this year either. shite gonna get real.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37277 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:34 pm to
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shite gonna get real.


Come to TTown this year. I'll show you a good time.
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 9:59 pm to
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3) Alabama - I don't think McElwain gets enough credit, Bama usually finds a way to put points on the board.


When Jacksonville State hangs more points on Ole Miss than Alabama (with Julio, Ingram, Richardson, Maze, a senior QB, etc) you have a problem.

When you can only score three points in one whole half against an average Auburn defense that lesser talented offenses hung more on, you have a problem. THREE frickING POINTS! That goes to show how much of a difference those two Aubie defenders who were suspended in the first half, really made!

When teams like Kentucky, Troy, Arkansas, and Tennessee hang more points on South Carolina than UA, you have a problem.

And seriously, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Florida, and North Carolina hung more points on LSU's D than Alabama did...

Should I also mention "powerhouse" offenses like Kent State's, Indiana's and Iowa's equaled the amount of points Alabama's loaded offensive hung on Penn State?

McElwain deceives people (particularly the braindead UA fans) by padding the stats against weakling opponents like Duke, Georgia State, San Jose State, and occasionally has one phenomenal offensive outing against an okay team like Tennessee or Mississippi State, making him appear to be better than what he is. Translation: he's overrated as hell. UA will never field an offense loaded with talent like we did last season and last year McElwain's once in a lifetime offense shite, pissed, and puked in the bed.

But I'll give McElwain credit for at least showcasing that talent against second/third-tier teams (Duke, Ga State, SJS, etc.). I can't wait to see what he has in store for Kent State, North Texas and Georgia Southern this year!
This post was edited on 8/4/11 at 10:02 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30440 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:06 pm to
man I thought we gave crowton a bad timeman I thought we gave crowton a bad time
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37277 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:12 pm to
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BradPitt


Fwiw you and Bench would make a good couple.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33977 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:18 pm to
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When Jacksonville State hangs more points on Ole Miss than Alabama (with Julio, Ingram, Richardson, Maze, a senior QB, etc) you have a problem.

When you can only score three points in one whole half against an average Auburn defense that lesser talented offenses hung more on, you have a problem.

When teams like Kentucky, Troy, Arkansas, and Tennessee hang more points on South Carolina than UA, you have a problem.

And seriously, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Florida, and North Carolina hung more points on LSU's D than Alabama did...

Should I also mention "powerhouse" offenses like Kent State's, Indiana's and Iowa's equaled the amount of points Alabama's loaded offensive hung on Penn State?

McElwain deceives people (particularly the braindead UA fans) by padding the stats against weakling opponents like Duke, Georgia State, San Jose State, and occasionally has one phenomenal offensive outing against an okay team like Tennessee or Mississippi State, making him appear to be better than what he is. Translation: he's overrated as hell. UA will never field an offense loaded with talent like we did last season and last year McElwain's once in a lifetime offense shite, pissed, and puked in the bed.

But I'll give McElwain credit for at least showcasing that talent against second/third-tier teams (Duke, Ga State, SJS, etc.). I can't wait to see what he has in store for Kent State, North Texas and Georgia Southern this year!


You nailed it, BradPitt. I hate his offense. I'm tired of the receivers run the same shitty routes short of the sticks over and over again. There's no creativity or ingenuity in McElwain's offense. He never take risks or attempts to make big plays even when they're down big i.e. South Carolina and Utah. The offense often bogs down, have a hard time extending drives and we might as well punt on third downs that are longer than seven yards. The job of an offensive coordinator is to make it easier for his players to make plays. In McElwain's offense, our receivers have to break three or four tackles and gain massive YAC for the play to gain decent yardage. It's not like these players are out in space either. There are multiple defenders around the ball because the receivers are rarely catching the ball in full stride. The guy's a joke, he's pitiful and the Alabama offense will never realize its full potential until this man is gone.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72291 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:19 pm to
Look, it's bench jr.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15164 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:27 pm to
Let's see you be the OC for an undefeated SEC & National Championship team you little fricknugget
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6297 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:28 pm to
All of those teams had two weeks to scheme for the Bama defense so the circumstances were not the same.

When 6 of your 8 Sec opponents have twice as long as usual to come up with a way to stop you they usually do a good job.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66030 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:34 pm to
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Crowton was fricking to much of a trick this/trick that coach. No identity. Kragthorpe said he wouldn't change teminology, nor the standard plays. But he would make it simple, POWER run football.

Honestly, it will be Les Miles philosophy. Kragthorpe's main job was to coach QB, which Crowton was incapable. He still will be.

Is this ideal? No. Is it a disaster? No.



This all sounds rather logical, in a short-term sort of way. But I have a question...

The newly appointed OC is Studrawa. Now, I recall on the Rant during the OC search almost 100% of LSU fans there came unglued at the idea Stud would take over the reins. If all he was charged to do is do what "you" all say he did at BG (which seems like an OK resume), why the freak out then and not now? If it's all Miles' 2009-2010 offense, anyone could call it...
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127567 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:37 pm to
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I recall on the Rant during the OC search almost 100% of LSU fans there came unglued at the idea Stud would take over the reins.


Don't take them seriously.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:08 pm to
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Dan Mullen calls the plays.


No he doesnt Bundy- Koenning does

But Mullen and Koenning talk about adjustments and what they want to do before each series begins- and Mullen is very hands on with the gameplan
Posted by chase8992
Member since Apr 2009
1678 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 12:17 am to
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LSU's offense is looking a bit shaky now


not the best choice of words..
Posted by GratefulRebFallTour
Shakedown Street
Member since Dec 2010
857 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 12:24 am to
I thought Petrino did most of the play-calling. I could be wrong but I would have Mcelwain hire and your Nutt analysis is spot on.

I thought Kent Austin was going to be the X-factor Nutt didnt have at Arkansas. Our Offense looked great the first two years in the system. When Austin left I lost some faith in Nutt's ability to retain a good OC. For God's sake Austin was a star at Ole Miss and was back coaching at his old school. Hell at one point I remember thinking to myself we should give Austin a shot at HC when we got rid of Nutt... Prolly not the best idea but WAOM. He left us for the fricking IVY League
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40915 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 12:26 am to
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I thought Petrino did most of the play-calling.

He does. I definitely wouldn't put Garrick as the #2 OC in the west because of that reason. He was the OC at Northwestern before we hired him and he ran some good offenses there but at the end of the day Petrino runs the offense for us and Garrick is the OC in title only.
Posted by GratefulRebFallTour
Shakedown Street
Member since Dec 2010
857 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 12:30 am to
Over-paid QB coach type?
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