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re: Obviously hard to follow the GOAT

Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by SoonerFantom
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:07 pm to
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Alabama has as many 5 stars and what not as it always has.



First , let me state.. not all 5*s are the same. saban paid for the elite of the elite.

Having said that.. looks like 'Bama has dropped into the 3.5* average range post the 4* average under pay for play saban. Expect it to go lower as the sun further sets on the saban .. AH, advantage, in this NIL era.

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I come with facts pendejo, maybe you can do so as well.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:09 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38651 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:13 pm to
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First , let me state.. not all 5*s are the same. saban paid for the elite of the elite.

Having said that.. looks like 'Bama has dropped into the 3.5* average range post the 4* average under pay for play saban. Expect it to go lower as the sun further sets on the saban .. AH, advantage, in this NIL era.

LINK

I come with facts pendejo, maybe you can do so as well.


You keep linking things that doesn't really support the shite you claim then claim them as facts.

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Posted by SoonerFantom
Gods Country.... local phonecall. O
Member since Feb 2024
318 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:19 pm to
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You keep linking things that doesn't really support the shite you claim then claim them as facts.


Yet you fail to post anything that refutes them.. just talk BS.

And to think, I thought you one of the serious posters here. My bad. Guess you go for quantity, not quality. ... saban would be ashamed of you .. Methinks.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:27 pm to
Kirby is currently 1-2 vs DeBoer. That is a positive sign. DeBoer also hasn’t lost to AU or LSU yet. The big losses are troubling. As a Bama fan I have no trouble admitting that.
My question was not a comparison question. It was addressing if you are having any creeping doubts with diminishing success. I thought you were wanting a conversation. Were you just trolling? Cool if you were, but your response got defensive real fast.


Kirby himself said his teams since the NC teams haven't been as talented. UGA has taken a step back
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38651 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:35 pm to
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Yet you fail to post anything that refutes them.. just talk BS.


You linked to Alabama having the #2 class in the country as evidence Alabama had a recruiting problem.

quote:

And to think, I thought you one of the serious posters here. My bad. Guess you go for quantity, not quality. ... saban would be ashamed of you .. Methinks.


You aren't important, nobody cares what you think about them. Get over yourself.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38651 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:42 pm to
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Kirby himself said his teams since the NC teams haven't been as talented. UGA has taken a step back


Same problem Saban and Alabama had, the players do not care about being developed as much as they use to.

Have to develop the talent to make them elite.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:45 pm to
I'm not sure Saban's record would be significantly different. Can't stack talent like they did for over a decade.
Posted by SoonerFantom
Gods Country.... local phonecall. O
Member since Feb 2024
318 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:49 pm to
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You aren't important, nobody cares what you think about them. Get over yourself.



LOL, got it. You are not a serious football poster. Just Oxford tailor trash.

Now wipe that Goose Egg off your face. I just exposed you like Indiana did 'Bama.

Lord, you are easy.
Posted by SoonerFantom
Gods Country.... local phonecall. O
Member since Feb 2024
318 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:53 pm to

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Can't stack talent like they did for over a decade.


Yeah, true that. When everyone can pay for play , the saban decides to retire.

I doubt saban could even go less than four losses a year today. Deboer is a much better coach... on a level playing field.. "cough"
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
32513 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:56 pm to
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I don't know what proper perspective is right how if you're an Alabama or what the rational take would be.


Just my opinion, fwiw ...

Alabama people to be perfectly honest are mostly Scottish descendants. They don't do well with this dynamic of going back and forth.

Things are very black and white to them (if we're honest, Georgia people are very similar).

They are also not so easy going. You're either working hard or you're just lazing about.

They either love something or they hate it. At this moment, I don't think they like DeBoer.

He'll at the very least get another 2 seasons (probably 3 more). But, they won't tolerate a Richt-like coach for long.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 7:00 pm
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
32513 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:01 pm to
Your takes don't show that you make any sense at all except that you just hate Alabama and Saban. That's about all you're saying.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8066 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:01 pm to
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Sure , you can buy the #1 recruiting class now, so can everybody else in any given year. Now that everybody gets to do the saban.. including portal. 'Bama falls to being a four loss team. Coincidence.. I think not. Likewise, with the portal, one cannot stock the top self five stars like saban did, year after year.... others get to bid on them now too. saban not only led in five stars.. they were the top of the five stars. saban only did that by paying. Then quit coaching as soon as NIL came along. Coincidence.. I think not.


Are you literally retarded? It would appear that you are. You are simply incapable of forming a coherent thought.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8066 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:05 pm to
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Our coach has already proven he can a national championship and get over the top


Not in the NIL era. We don’t actually know that he can win in this environment.
Posted by SoonerFantom
Gods Country.... local phonecall. O
Member since Feb 2024
318 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:17 pm to

"
quote:

Your takes don't show that you make any sense at all except that you just hate Alabama and Saban. That's about all you're saying.


Like 'Bama.. hate saban, or rather the likes of 10down fantasy, that he is some GOAT , when he just bought , pre NIL, like Nil back then.

You say my "takes" are nonsensical? You mean my links showing seven years of #1 "recruiting" under saban. Which even that link.. a 'Bama centric one , admits that player development is problematical under saban as they had an average 4* roster ranking?

Then after NIL, saban quits.. Ahem.... and 'Bama drops to an average 3.5* ranking and a four loss season.

What part of that is nonsensical"

Maybe you can actually make factual reply on that , 10down certainly cannot. How does 'Bama have just as many 5* as the pay for play saban years.. when there team * rating in falling?

Occam's razor.

Care to make sense, instead of being ..nonsensical?

Would rather have 10down reply instead of you running interference for him. But , oh well. Seems he is not capabke of real football discourse.. just crap.

How 'Bout you?
Posted by SoonerFantom
Gods Country.... local phonecall. O
Member since Feb 2024
318 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:25 pm to
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Are you literally retarded? It would appear that you are. You are simply incapable of forming a coherent thought.


Wow, the Oxford trailer trash are out in force.

Tell me folks, is this what a 'Bama fan is? LOL.. so sad.

Let me get this straight, you and other 'Bamatards like 10down .. say that Depoer is recruiting just as well as St Nick saban. Lets start there.

Christ, like reading a kindergarten book to 30-70 year old tards..." See saban recruit.. se Depoer recruit.. not same level.. see NIL as cause.. see saban retire"
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20672 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Deboer lost 7 games away from Tuscaloosa in his first two seasons.


Nick Saban lost 8 games in his first 2 seasons, including at home to UL-Monroe. He won the west in year two and lost the SEC championship game. Had there still been divisions Deboer would have won the division and then lost the SEC championship game in his second year. The similarities are eery.

Is Deboer Saban? No. But to act like the sky is falling is stupid. But there are lots of stupid people in the world. And lots of emotional people who let emotion instead of logic determine their decision making.

Alabama lost more talent when Saban retired than any team in SEC history. Multiple first team All-Americans, a Heisman finalist, many players who will play in the NFL. Alabama had to plug in true freshmen and first year transfers to fill these holes. As players get more experience in Deboer’s system, and he gets more players that fit it, Alabama should improve.

Making the SEC championship game, making the playoffs, winning a playoff game and finishing with 11 wins is a solid second season. 95% of programs would kill for that type of season. Many SEC programs have not had a single season in the modern era as good as “tdecline.” I have high expectations for year three.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8066 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Let me get this straight, you and other 'Bamatards like 10down .. say that Depoer is recruiting just as well as St Nick saban. Lets start there.





Your entire premise in your multiple incoherent diatribes is that Bama is losing because their recruiting has gone to shite. You’ve been shown that you are wrong. Alabama is recruiting great, in fact much better than one would expect for a yankee coach, who hasn’t won a title, with no connections to the region. He is recruiting better than Saban was in year #2, despite Saban having a title. None of your fantasies are logical conclusions supported by the facts. The biggest change, which is obvious to all with working brains, is that two and three deep talent can no longer be stockpiled due to unlimited transfers and players leaving for immediate playing time. I assumed you were trolling at first but now I see that you are, in fact, retarded. Sorry about your luck.
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