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Objective Ranking of the SEC teams based on if played a neutral site tournament today
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:51 pm
If the SEC played a neutral site tourney, this is how I see it unfolding. AP Top 25 poll doesn't do a good job of weighting a home win vs a road win vice versa a home loss should be 5x docked more than a road loss, but they see it all the same, but 100% in my opinion a home game is worth a 10 point advantage in the SEC. AP Top 25 also barely factors SOS. UT has no solid wins yet, but are ranked #6. Yes I say 10 points. I think the LSU v Ole MIss, Tenn v Bama, LSU v Texas A&M, would all sway 10 points or more the other way if those games were played at the other universities home field or a neutral site. I say this as an LSU fan. We would not have beat Ole Miss if it weren't in Baton Rouge. I also think same about Texas A&M. We would have beat them in a neutral or home game.
1. UGA (ahead of the rest as of now. Lost at Bama by a few which is almost a good loss).
2. Bama (On a neutral site, they beat Tennessee, still too much talent for me to rank lower when playing on a neutral site. Beat UGA, would've probably lost that game away from Tuscaloosa. If you line up Bama vs any SEC team on neutral site, they'd be the money favorite against all but UGA. Maybe Texas would be pick'em, but still Texas hasn't showed anything yet)
3. Ole Miss (I think would've won on neutral site vs LSU. This one is very hard to do because they have all the pieces on offense and defense more so than the teams ranked below them and looked great at times, but have fallen short.)
4. LSU (would've lost to Ole Miss on neutral site, would've beaten TAMU on neutral site)
5. Texas (Only real team they've played so far, UGA, got blown out at home. Haven't showed enough to me yet. Tempted to even rank lower for no SOR)
6. Tenn (yes they beat Bama but it was at home. They would've loss on neutral field. QB play too inconsistent to beat great teams on road)
7. Texas A&M (have only beat 1 of the top 6 and was at home, but think they lose to LSU on neutral site. QB play too inconsistent to beat great teams on road)
8 Vandy
9 SC
10. Florida
11. Arkansas
12. Missou
13. Auburn.
14. Oklahoma
15. Kentucky
16. Miss St
To back my assessment, I am 65-45 on ESPN College Football Pick 'Em against the spread picks which ranks top 98th percentile. This year is definitely the hardest to do because 2 through 7 are almost interchangable.
AP Top 25 weighs 0% on Strength of Schedule and Home vs Away wins/losses. Those are probably the 2 most important things in college football when weighing wins and losses. The only thing AP Top 25 weights is what was the preseason ranking of said Team (i.e. UT despite no good wins and a bad home loss yet is ranked #6 bc preseason high ranking), media bias (again UT), and what was the ranking of other team that they beat.
They weight 0% on things like did this team beat a top 10 SEC team that seats 105,000 people on the road at night? If so, that's worth 3x beating same top 10 team at home. Or did this team beat a top 10 team at home relying on the crowd of 105,000 at night vs beating them on road, well that's worth 1/3rd an actual road win of the same.
That is the true testament of how good a team is.
1. UGA (ahead of the rest as of now. Lost at Bama by a few which is almost a good loss).
2. Bama (On a neutral site, they beat Tennessee, still too much talent for me to rank lower when playing on a neutral site. Beat UGA, would've probably lost that game away from Tuscaloosa. If you line up Bama vs any SEC team on neutral site, they'd be the money favorite against all but UGA. Maybe Texas would be pick'em, but still Texas hasn't showed anything yet)
3. Ole Miss (I think would've won on neutral site vs LSU. This one is very hard to do because they have all the pieces on offense and defense more so than the teams ranked below them and looked great at times, but have fallen short.)
4. LSU (would've lost to Ole Miss on neutral site, would've beaten TAMU on neutral site)
5. Texas (Only real team they've played so far, UGA, got blown out at home. Haven't showed enough to me yet. Tempted to even rank lower for no SOR)
6. Tenn (yes they beat Bama but it was at home. They would've loss on neutral field. QB play too inconsistent to beat great teams on road)
7. Texas A&M (have only beat 1 of the top 6 and was at home, but think they lose to LSU on neutral site. QB play too inconsistent to beat great teams on road)
8 Vandy
9 SC
10. Florida
11. Arkansas
12. Missou
13. Auburn.
14. Oklahoma
15. Kentucky
16. Miss St
To back my assessment, I am 65-45 on ESPN College Football Pick 'Em against the spread picks which ranks top 98th percentile. This year is definitely the hardest to do because 2 through 7 are almost interchangable.
AP Top 25 weighs 0% on Strength of Schedule and Home vs Away wins/losses. Those are probably the 2 most important things in college football when weighing wins and losses. The only thing AP Top 25 weights is what was the preseason ranking of said Team (i.e. UT despite no good wins and a bad home loss yet is ranked #6 bc preseason high ranking), media bias (again UT), and what was the ranking of other team that they beat.
They weight 0% on things like did this team beat a top 10 SEC team that seats 105,000 people on the road at night? If so, that's worth 3x beating same top 10 team at home. Or did this team beat a top 10 team at home relying on the crowd of 105,000 at night vs beating them on road, well that's worth 1/3rd an actual road win of the same.
That is the true testament of how good a team is.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:04 pm to Saunson69
A&M beat LSU by 15. They outrushed LSU like 240 to 24.
In short, your list is verified retarded.
In short, your list is verified retarded.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:06 pm to Hugh McElroy
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They outrushed LSU like 240 to 24
Covenient to point out rushing yards, but neglect that LSU outgained A&M total yardage 429 to 376.
My list is about as accurate as it gets. You're probably brainwashed by AP Top 25 that weight 0% on Strength of Schedule and Home vs Away wins/losses. Those are probably the 2 most important things in college football when weighing wins and losses. The only thing AP Top 25 weights is what was the preseason ranking of said Team (i.e. UT despite no good wins yet is ranked #6 bc preseason high ranking), and what was ranking of other team that they beat.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:11 pm to Saunson69
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They outrushed LSU like 240 to 24
Covenient to point out rushing yards, but neglect that LSU outgained A&M total yardage 429 to 376.
More balanced attack.

This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:13 pm to Saunson69

31-6 in the second half.

Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:18 pm to Saunson69
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8 Vandy
9 SC
10. Florida
11. Arkansas
This part is all wrong my man. All wrong.
Arkansas would beat all 3 of those teams, especially if we're talking at a neutral site. Arkansas actually plays better away from home for some reason. Pretty sure Arkansas beats those teams home or away also.
Your list strikes me as a fan that only watches his favorite team, and I'm not just talking about Arkansas' ranking.
Texas A&M at 7th in the conference is also ignorant. At worst they should be 3rd. You have Alabama at second based on their history and name recognition alone, when they've lost to Tennessee and Vanderbilt and had 2 other very ugly games.
You haven't actually watched any of these teams outside of your own games against them.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:27 pm to RazorBroncs
This goes back to Home vs Away. Bama would have beaten Vandy and Tenn on a neutral site. They still have 4 classes of 1st and 2nd ranked classes. It will change over time and get worse, but most of those players are still on the team. If you set up a tournament like this, they would be favored against every team besides Georgia. People talk BS, but don't BS with their money. When money is on the line, then you see the real truth. But until money is on the line, you'll hear a bunch of talking heads. And when it comes to money, they'd be favored against every team on neutral site besides UGA.
As for Arkansas, they could've probably moved up here. It was hard to rank 8-11 because Vandy beat Bama even if at home that's impressive. Florida has turned the tables. SC has looked good almost beat Bama on the road. Arkansas has a home win vs Tenn. They are to a degree almost interchangable. As are 2-7.
As for Arkansas, they could've probably moved up here. It was hard to rank 8-11 because Vandy beat Bama even if at home that's impressive. Florida has turned the tables. SC has looked good almost beat Bama on the road. Arkansas has a home win vs Tenn. They are to a degree almost interchangable. As are 2-7.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 11/2/24 at 1:13 am to Saunson69
Your ranking is not objective so roll it up and wipe
Posted on 11/2/24 at 1:33 am to Saunson69
These are your own opinions and don’t mean shite this is college football and the SEC
We shouldn’t be playing each other at neutral sites that’s just stupid.
Fla Ga should be home and home.
Ga should have to play them at the swamp!
We shouldn’t be playing each other at neutral sites that’s just stupid.
Fla Ga should be home and home.
Ga should have to play them at the swamp!
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:40 am to Saunson69
If my uncle had tits he would be my aunt.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:46 am to Saunson69
So this is an objective fantasy
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