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re: Now the Federal Govt is involved
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:05 pm to BamaScoop
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:05 pm to BamaScoop
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The FBI is involved because churchs are non-profit organizations that do not pay taxes. So the FBI is getting involved simply because they think there is a money trail they are not interested in whether a reporter is telling the truth or not. They will want to know if someone is fricking the government out of their cut.
Is someone donated money to his fathers church and took a tax break and it was a pay off then Auburn is fricked. This is not good for Auburn.
Lying to a reporter is one thing but if you lie to the FBI you are an idiot.
Scoop you and NbamaAlum's legal advice is needed in all of this
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Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:06 pm to beaver
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How is this bad for us exactly?
How is John bond connected to Auburn at all whatsoever?
No clue. That is what the FBI is for.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:06 pm to Analyze That
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Yes, and who was the key player being shopped?
Cam is the player. The FBI is not interested in the players...they are interested in the agents.
The NCAA is interested in the players.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:08 pm to parkjas2001
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First I have heard of it.
Albert Means. I'm telling you I've seen PLENTY of what they do.
They have the power to get Kenny Rogers' phone records, and to backtrack every call he's made, and every cal THAT person made...
THIS is what I said last week about how useless a gesture Auburn turning over their phone records was. The devil is in Rogers' records...and WHO HE CALLED.
The Feds can also go into financial records...the NCAA can only look at what you show them.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:08 pm to Analyze That
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Yes, and who was the key player being shopped?
How do you think we got Mike Henig?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:08 pm to BamaScoop
quote:That is not a bad theory, but that is not what the story says. It says they are investigating whether people are shopping players to colleges (i.e. Kenny Rogers). If the investigation was related to the church and taxes, it would be an IRS investigation, not FBI. Also, if they were looking for laundered money, my the heck would they care about speaking with John Bond? Why not Cecil and Kenny Rogers?
The FBI is involved because churchs are non-profit organizations that do not pay taxes. So the FBI is getting involved simply because they think there is a money trail they are not interested in whether a reporter is telling the truth or not. They will want to know if someone is fricking the government out of their cut.
Is someone donated money to his fathers church and took a tax break and it was a pay off then Auburn is fricked. This is not good for Auburn.
Lying to a reporter is one thing but if you lie to the FBI you are an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:09 pm to WDE24
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Yeah you are right, the FBI can just get whatever they want, whenever they want it, from whomever they want without demonstrating any probable cause or justifying it to a judge. Most police organizations in the country have such broad power. Glad someone has clarified the limits of the FBI's subpoena power.
If you don't think that a subpoena ad testificandum or a subpoena duces tecum can be issued in this matter....I've got some ocean front property in TN I'd like to show you. The church tax angle is all the blue suits need..
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:09 pm to DeltaDoc
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(1) The FBI does not get involved in public stuff like this unless or until they believe that there is credible evidence to work with;
Exactly. Like I posted before, the FBI is not going to willingly get egg on its prestigious name for investigating a non-event.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:09 pm to WDE24
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That is not a bad theory, but that is not what the story says. It says they are investigating whether people are shopping players to colleges (i.e. Kenny Rogers). If the investigation was related to the church and taxes, it would be an IRS investigation, not FBI.
The FBI makes arrests and workd hand in hand with the IRS in many cases
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:10 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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I'm telling you I've seen PLENTY of what they do.
I have no doubt the FBI can and will do anything they want. The good news for everyone is that this wont take 5 years like the reggie Bush thing.
Not sure if I want my tax dolalrs being used like this but whatever.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:10 pm to NBamaAlum
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If you don't think that a subpoena ad testificandum or a subpoena duces tecum can be issued in this matter....I've got some ocean front property in TN I'd like to show you. The church tax angle is all the blue suits need..
Bingo!
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:10 pm to WDE24
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That is not a bad theory, but that is not what the story says. It says they are investigating whether people are shopping players to colleges (i.e. Kenny Rogers)
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT STARTED WITH THE MEANS CASE!! They went in under a "Civil Rights" abuse...
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If the investigation was related to the church and taxes, it would be an IRS investigation, not FBI.
Yeah, they'll get in soon enough, don't worry.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:10 pm to Monticello
imo the sec needs to jump on this now and have a offer ready for tcu. auburn is going to be worthless without football
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:11 pm to parkjas2001
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Not sure if I want my tax dolalrs being used like this but whatever.
atleast its not pork barrel crap
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:11 pm to parkjas2001
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Not sure if I want my tax dolalrs being used like this but whatever.
I don't mind.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:12 pm to heartbreakTiger
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imo the sec needs to jump on this now and have a offer ready for tcu. auburn is going to be worthless without football
They're decent in baseball right?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:12 pm to Analyze That
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atleast its not pork barrel crap
i will agree with you there.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:12 pm to Analyze That
Isn't the Auburn NCAA compliance officer a former FBI agent? Could he have called in a favor?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:12 pm to Analyze That
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imo the sec needs to jump on this now and have a offer ready for tcu. auburn is going to be worthless without football
They're decent in baseball right?
You guys are gonna suffer in the s and d arena moving forward.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 5:13 pm to Analyze That
they were last year but historically tcu is better.
also tcu wont have 8 strikes against them
also tcu wont have 8 strikes against them
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