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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:35 pm to John Casey
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:35 pm to John Casey
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LSU is 4th best program in SEC. They have 4th highest contract buyout. Seems about right.
I’m not sure you understand how buyouts work. BK has a 2yr head start on DeBoer and his buyout is only slightly smaller right now. DeBoer’s buyout will be roughly $12 million less after year 3 than BK’s buyout was after year 3, and at least our coach has won something in his career.
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:01 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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I’m not sure you understand how buyouts work. BK has a 2yr head start on DeBoer and his buyout is only slightly smaller right now.
This doesn't matter. The buyout is the buyout, and it's currently 4th highest in SEC.
LSU and Kelly was always going to be a 4 or 5 year marriage. The buyout, as it currently stands, is in line with where LSU is as a program.
Kelly's buyout is not all that different from the 10th highest buyout in the country of Matt Rhule's $55 million heading into 2025.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:11 pm to BamaBravesPackers
quote:What's that?
and at least our coach has won something in his career.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:22 pm to John Casey
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This doesn't matter.
What? You’re honestly going to argue that it doesn’t matter what year the contract is in?
Only Sidewalk has made a more ignorant statement than this in this thread. Most contracts are written as a % of the remaining contract, so yes, the year of the contract VERY MUCH MATTERS!
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:28 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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What? You’re honestly going to argue that it doesn’t matter what year the contract is in?
If DeBoer goes 4-8 in 2025, do you think he is guaranteed to be back in 2026?
Kelly wasn't fired in the years the buyout was absurdly high. All that matters is what is in the contract going forward.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:34 pm to John Casey
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If DeBoer goes 4-8 in 2025, do you think he is guaranteed to be back in 2026?
He’s not going 4-8. But if he goes 10-3 (no playoffs) and 9-4 (no playoffs) in his next 2 years like BK did, it will very much matter what year of the contract it is. No playoffs or playoff wins in the first 2 years is very different than no playoffs or playoff wins in years 3 & 4.
DeBoer isn’t getting fired in the first 3 years, and that’s with a buyout that’s double digit millions lower than BK’s was at the same point in the contract.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:39 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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BK has a 2yr head start on DeBoer and his buyout is only slightly smaller right now.
What is it? Like $9 million?
"Slightly smaller"
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:42 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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He’s not going 4-8. But if he goes 10-3 (no playoffs) and 9-4 (no playoffs) in his next 2 years like BK did, it will very much matter what year of the contract it is
If the wheels fell off in 2025 for Alabama and LSU and the head coach needed to be fired, which school would owe more money?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:01 pm to John Casey
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If the wheels fell off in 2025 for Alabama and LSU and the head coach needed to be fired, which school would owe more money?
This is a dumb hypothetical because you’re trying to compare a coach going into his 2nd year with one going into his 4th. Those aren’t the same thing and I’m not sure why you can’t understand that.
If they both go 8-4 in the regular season this year, DeBoer isn’t getting fired. It’s only his 2nd year. He will be given at least 1-2 more seasons to see if he can turn things around. BK, on the other hand, will have completed his 4th straight season with no playoffs and his 3rd season out of 4 with 4 losses. Will he get fired for 8-4 this year?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:12 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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This is a dumb hypothetical because you’re trying to compare a coach going into his 2nd year with one going into his 4th. Those aren’t the same thing and I’m not sure why you can’t understand that.
And you are trying to compare the past to the present.
Brian Kelly is still the LSU coach. It doesn't matter if his buyout was $90 million 3 years ago. He didn't get fired and the buyout wasn't paid.
All that matters is what the buyout is currently.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:15 pm to JayAg
I am slacking again. My bad.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:16 pm to Tridentds
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They seem butt hurt about it.
It makes complete sense considering most if their fanbase acts this way.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:25 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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This is a dumb hypothetical because you’re trying to compare a coach going into his 2nd year with one going into his 4th. Those aren’t the same thing and I’m not sure why you can’t understand that.
Theoretically, DeBoer will have a smaller window for error because he took over a playoff team.
Kelly will have a larger room for error because he took over a .500 team.
If both go 8-4 this year, their seats will probably be equally as hot.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:30 pm to JayAg
This thread is boring now
Needs anchor
Needs anchor
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:31 pm to John Casey
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All that matters is what the buyout is currently.
For BK, sure, because he actually could get fired after this year. You didn’t answer the question, does BK get fired if he goes 8-4 in the regular season?
If you are going to compare buyouts, then you have to compare apples to apples. DeBoer isn’t getting fired after this year. It doesn’t matter what his buyout is currently because he isn’t getting fired after 2 years. If he goes 8-4, then it will matter what his buyout will be after next year if he doesn’t get it turned around.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:28 am to JayAg
Rant gonna melt when Mulkey and Kelly show up in Omaha
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:15 am to BamaBravesPackers
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does BK get fired if he goes 8-4 in the regular season?
Probably not.
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If you are going to compare buyouts, then you have to compare apples to apples. DeBoer isn’t getting fired after this year. It doesn’t matter what his buyout is currently because he isn’t getting fired after 2 years. If he goes 8-4, then it will matter what his buyout will be after next year if he doesn’t get it turned around.
I am comparing apples to apples, each program's current buyout situation.
From this point in time, forward, if Alabama or LSU decided to move on from DeBoer or Kelly, Alabama's buyout to fire DeBoer will always be higher than LSU's buyout to fire Kelly.
DeBoer and Kelly would both be owed 90% of the remaining contracts.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:07 am to SidewalkTiger
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Theoretically, DeBoer will have a smaller window for error because he took over a playoff team.
Kelly will have a larger room for error because he took over a .500 team.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:44 am to BamaBravesPackers
quote:No. DeBoer won't get fired either after year 4 even if he has an 8-4 record. With NIL, coach buyouts will dwindle. The ones funding those 50 mil buyouts are also the ones funding the players.
does BK get fired if he goes 8-4 in the regular season?
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