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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?

Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:11 am to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:11 am to
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Kelly now has all the tools and there are no more excuses after this season.


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So he should beat Clemson?




Sidewalk is right. You're just not very smart.

You follow LSU closely enough to know we're replacing 4 starters at the line, you probably know their girlfriends names.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:42 am to
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there are no more excuses


You quote the statement above, then post

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You follow LSU closely enough to know we're replacing 4 starters at the line


Ok, maybe one excuse.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:47 am to
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Who is beating top 10 teams at a G5?


You asked. I told you.

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Seems dumb to knock a G5 coach for losing to top 10 teams


I am not knocking the Cincinnati coach for losing to top 10 opponents. I am knocking the LSU coach for losing to top 10 teams. Or has Kelly turned LSU into a G5 level program?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 11:53 am to
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 I am knocking the LSU coach for losing to top 10 teams.


He's 3-4 vs top 10 teams at LSU.

I'll take that in a rebuild.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:15 pm to
Well, this is his best LSU team. IF they miss the playoffs, the program wont get any better with him in charge. Meaning 8-4 /9-3 is the ceiling.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:18 pm to
How many years do you think the rebuild will take?
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:33 pm to
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How many years do you think the rebuild will take?


3-4 years on which most of us Kelly "defenders" seem to be in agreement.

This is Kelly's best team with a 5th year, and aguably the best, QB in the country. If he doesn't make the playoffs, this year, I think you will start to see the tides shift and you won't see too many defenders.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:34 pm to
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How many years do you think the rebuild will take?


As stated multiple times, I think 2025 is the inflection point for his tenure at LSU.

Frankly, I still don't understand this constant obsession with Kelly from rival fans, I get that Domers have sour grapes still but not sure what's the issue with this board specifically.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:45 pm to
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3-4 years on which most of us Kelly "defenders" seem to be in agreement.

This is Kelly's best team with a 5th year, and aguably the best, QB in the country. If he doesn't make the playoffs, this year, I think you will start to see the tides shift and you won't see too many defenders.


Agreed, LSU opened their wallets and bought Kelly the best transfer class in the country, the floor for this team has to be the playoff.

Maybe he gets a pass if Nuss has an injury or something or you lose a lot at one position group, but it'd take a big loss.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Agreed, LSU opened their wallets and bought Kelly the best transfer class in the country, the floor for this team has to be the playoff.



You lose 2 starting tackles and both guards, and this year will be when LSU finally gets its running game in order, per LSU sports sites. Nuss could just as easily be running for his life. If you couldn't run the ball with last year's line, it just isn't in the Offensive DNA.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40012 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Maybe he gets a pass if Nuss has an injury


Alabama will try to take him out just like they did with Daniels
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:54 pm to
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You lose 2 starting tackles and both guards, and this year will be when LSU finally gets its running game in order, per LSU sports sites.


I know people are saying they have to be good if LSU wants to be a contender.

I don't know of any who are convinced 100% that they'll be able to.

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If you couldn't run the ball with last year's line, it just isn't in the Offensive DNA.


Well that's dumb.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Alabama will try to take him out just like they did with Daniels


Why bother. He QBed the entire 4th quarter in Tuscaloosa and didn't score with those 1st round receivers. He got shut down again in Baton Rouge to the tune of 13 points. We'll even keep the light on for you.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:01 pm to
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If you couldn't run the ball with last year's line, it just isn't in the Offensive DNA.


Well that's dumb.


Let me help you. If you want to run the ball and finish drives in the red zone, you'd better be physical enough to run it in a phone booth. Les knew how to go downhill. That's more than talent, that's scheme.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Let me help you. If you want to run the ball and finish drives in the red zone, you'd better be physical enough to run it in a phone booth. Les knew how to go downhill. That's more than talent, that's scheme.


Where do you coach?
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Where do you coach?


Football isn't hard. Conviction is.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3666 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:17 pm to
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You lose 2 starting tackles and both guards, and this year will be when LSU finally gets its running game in order, per LSU sports sites. Nuss could just as easily be running for his life. If you couldn't run the ball with last year's line, it just isn't in the Offensive DNA.


And maybe the new tackles/guards are better run blockers than pass blockers than the outgoing linemen?

I've never worried about offensive line play under Kelly.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66066 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Football isn't hard.

You do seem to have a rather simplistic view of it.

What's your view on Bama becoming a "finesse, spread, pass happy" team?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:44 pm to
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And maybe the new tackles/guards are better run blockers than pass blockers than the outgoing linemen?

I've never worried about offensive line play under Kelly.


You should know the scheme Kelly is running by now. In the BAMA games, Cajuns screamed bloody murder about how predictable Les Miles' run game was. Of course, stopping it was still the hardest part.

Being one-dimensional did help BAMA. The problem was that coach Saban often would go super conservative in big games, too, and those games turned into slugfests with BAMA usually being willing to take more chances through the air. Just barely.

Kelly is just as one-dimensional in his thinking; he just does it through the air.

Sark, Smart, and certainly coach Saban fought and fight for those 2-dimensial convictions every season. Finding the happy balance between pass and run is what keeps great defenses honest in the biggest moments. That takes scheme of a different kind and a whole lot of conviction to create the muscle memory in practice. That is what Brian Kelly is missing.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:49 pm to
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You do seem to have a rather simplistic view of it.

What's your view on Bama becoming a "finesse, spread, pass happy" team?


Unlike many, I won't be in denial. I know what wins and why. Jalen Milroe running the ball isn't the same as our 4 and 5-star running backs controlling the LOS, controlling the clock, playing to the defense enough to keep them rested and effective. Stay tuned.
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