re: Not looking good for Auburn...

So, in 1957 AU was put on probation for 3 years with no TV and no bowl for 2 years; then the very next year, AU was again put on probation for 3 years and this time no TV or bowl for 3 years and you are saying they are the same. Why did the NCAA list them separately if they were the same?

I did read that the 1980 probation was an extension of the 1979... after the NCAA found more violations for the football team.

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MISSION, KANSAS--Auburn University, which was placed on probation for two years by the NCAA in April 1979 for violations occurring in the con-duct of its intercollegiate football program, has had its probationary period extended by the NCAA Committee on Infractions. After reviewing further information regarding the university's football program, the Committee on Infractions found that several additional violations had occurred and imposed a one-year probationary period on the university effective November 2, 1980. The additional penalty will expire November 2, 1981.

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(1980).......Institution: Auburn University
Date: May 11, 1979

Violation Sumary: Extra benefits; improper recruiting contacts, entertainment, inducements, lodging, publicity and transportation; excessive number of official visits; tryouts; questionable practice; certification of compliance.

Penalty Summary: Show cause why more penalties should not be imposed if institution does not disassociate four representatives from recruiting. MEN'S BASKETBALL: one-year postseason ban; one-year television ban. FOOTBALL: two-year postseason ban; two-year television ban.


Reports


Public Report


Involved Sports:
Men's Basketball, Football

Involved Penalties:
Television: 2 yrs Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 2 yrs Recruiting: Yes
Probation: 2 yrs Show Cause Action: No
Vacation of Record: No



(1979)........Institution: Auburn University
Date: April 21, 1958

Violation Sumary: Improper recruiting inducements.

Penalty Summary: No NCAA voting and committee privileges during probationary period; postseason (all); television (all).


Reports


Public Report


Involved Sports:
Football

Involved Penalties:
Television: 3 yrs Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 3 yrs Recruiting: No
Probation: 3 yrs Show Cause Action: No
Vacation of Record: No


(1958).......Institution: Auburn University
Date: April 21, 1958

Violation Sumary: Improper recruiting inducements.

Penalty Summary: No NCAA voting and committee privileges during probationary period; postseason (all); television (all).


Reports


Public Report


Involved Sports:
Football

Involved Penalties:
Television: 3 yrs Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 3 yrs Recruiting: No
Probation: 3 yrs Show Cause Action: No
Vacation of Record: No

(1957).......Institution: Auburn University
Date: January 11, 1957

Violation Sumary: Improper recruiting inducements.

Penalty Summary: Probation for three years.


Reports


Public Report


Involved Sports:
Football

Involved Penalties:
Television: 2 yrs Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 2 yrs Recruiting: No
Probation: 3 yrs Show Cause Action: No
Vacation of Record: No

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I did? do tell.

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You listed 2 majors. Bama has 5 four of which are for football. one of which included 10 majors at one time. in which included p4p involving 3 recruits

Nice try with thinking you only have 2 major case violations though

Just got off work and have already fixed dinner. Why can't I relax and read my forums?

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Definitely how the first ATPB thread started out.

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You listed 2 majors. Bama has 5 four of which are for football. one of which included 10 majors at one time. in which included p4p involving 3 recruits Nice try with thinking you only have 2 major case violations though

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Source? the NCAA lists incidents. The incidents I listed came from their website.

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You listed 2 majors. Bama has 5 four of which are for football. one of which included 10 majors at one time. in which included p4p involving 3 recruits

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The 1964 incident, Bama was not put on probation, no tv ban, no bowl ban, no scholarships taken. Alabama just received a public reprimand.

1994, 2002, and 2009 (all athletics) were the major ones.

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he 1964 incident, Bama was not put on probation, no tv ban, no bowl ban, no scholarships taken. Alabama just received a public reprimand.

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Was it a Major violation? yes. Boom there are the 4 for football, then the other for B-Ball in the 90's I believe

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And it wasn't just receiving an extra textbook or two. there were players receiving thousands in extras.

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The worst offenders weren't even on the football team. Only 6 guys on the football roster, including three on scholarship, were reprimanded.

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Was it a Major violation? yes. Boom there are the 4 for football, then the other for B-Ball in the 90's I believe

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How do you consider it a "major violation" when nothing but a public reprimand came from it?