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re: No team can dominate the SEC?
Posted on 1/30/12 at 8:35 pm to Herman Frisco
Posted on 1/30/12 at 8:35 pm to Herman Frisco
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Look up %of wins in the first 5 years of Bryant vrs the first 5 years of Saban. What you got?
Something that a lot of older Alabama fans are going to have to come to grips with sooner than later.
Eta: with that said, as sad as it is to say...
Mike Shula >>>>>>>>> Ears Whitworth
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Posted on 1/30/12 at 8:39 pm to ThaKaptin
Kap, supposedly LSU will hire Adam Henry as WR coach. He is currently the Raiders TE coach. Know anything about him?
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:01 pm to ThaKaptin
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Something that a lot of older Alabama fans are going to have to come to grips with sooner than later.
Holy chit I just noticed that the last 4 yrs Saban is 48-6, in 1960-1964 Bryant was 48-6. It was 5 years but they played fewer games back then. Talk about history repeating itself.
Bryant won 6 NC's. I don't know if Saban can do it but he may be the only one in the next 50 years to give it a shot. Bryant won 5 SEC Champ's in the decade of the 70's, 13 SECC's in all. I don't think its even possible to win 10 SECC's now let alone 13. If you ever really wonder who the greatest of all time was that should leave you no doubt anymore.
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Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:04 pm to memphisplaya
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Kap, supposedly LSU will hire Adam Henry as WR coach. He is currently the Raiders TE coach. Know anything about him?
Absolutely nothing. I have tried not to pay much attention the last several years. It gives me ulcers. Hoping that is gonna change with al Davis passing and the actual use of a GM for the first time in eleventy millatron years.
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:11 pm to bama1959
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If you ever really wonder who the greatest of all time was that should leave you no doubt anymore
Coach Bryant is the GOAT for sure. But in terms of national titles, I think Saban has the ability to get there and possibly in fewer years which would be an amazing feat itself just for the fact that its even harder to do it so consistently now with scholarship limitations and conferences splitting earnings evenly among teams helping teams to better their facilities and such.
If he doesn't catch Coach Bryant in NC's it's still totally possible for him to get to the number 2 spot which would give Alabama the 2 greatest coaches of all time.
But this is all speculation. He could leave tomorrow, but I think it's more possible than you might think.
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
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And my definition of dominated is winning the SEC anywhere from 3 in a row to 4 out of 7. 5 out of 8 being magical.
5 out of 8 will never happen, imo. Bryant had 5 out of 10 in the 70's. Won 4 in 6 years 1961-1966. We only had 10 teams back then though. I don't see how you could do it now. Saban won 3 SEC's in 7yrs at 2 different schools but only if you take out 2 yrs at Miami.
Posted on 1/30/12 at 9:27 pm to ThaKaptin
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If he doesn't catch Coach Bryant in NC's it's still totally possible for him to get to the number 2 spot which would give Alabama the 2 greatest coaches of all time.
How many more years will Saban stay? Lets say he stays another 10 which will make him 70. He would have to win 3 more in 10 years to catch Bryant. If it was anyone else it would be just a pipe dream but he's got all of Bama believing maybe. As far as top coaches go, don't forget Wallace Wade (won 3 at Bama) who I believe would make it 3 in the top 5 coaches or so of all time. CWW almost won NC at Duke a couple of times after he left Bama.
This post was edited on 1/30/12 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:04 pm to deltaland
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I find the SEC guilty of sexual assault of the anus of the Big12, Big 10, and Pac 12 conferences.
If the PAC beats the SEC head 2 head more often this past Century then how is that us getting butt-raped by you when we play you?
BCS era started in 1998. Did not meet in'98,'99.
2000 UCLA .......... vs Alabama .......W 35-24
2001 UCLA ........... @ Alabama .......W 20-17
2002 Oregon ........ vs Mississippi St W 36-13
2002 USC ............ vs Auburn .........W 24-17
2003 Oregon ......... @ Mississippi St W 42-34
2003 USC ............. @ Auburn ........ W 23-00
2003 Arizona ........ vs LSU .............. L 13-59
2004 Oregon St ..... @ LSU .............. L 21-22 (ot)
2005 Arizona St .... vs LSU .............. L 31-35
2005 USC ............. vs Arkansas ..... W 70-17
2006 California ...... @ Tennessee .... L 18-35
2006 USC .............. @ Arkansas ..... W 50-14
2006 Washington St @ Auburn .......... L 14-40
2006 Arizona ......... @ LSU .............. L 03-45
2007 California ..... vs Tennessee ... W 45-31
2008 UCLA ........... vs Tennessee ... W 27-24 (ot)
2008 Arizona St .... vs Georgia ........ L 10-27
2009 Washington .. vs LSU .............. L 23-31
2009 UCLA ............ @ Tennessee ... W 19-15
2009 Arizona St ..... @ Georgia ........ L 17-20
2010 Oregon ......... @ Tenn ............ W 48-13
2011 Oregon(BCS Title)Auburn .........L 22-19
2011 Oregon ......... @ LSU .............. L 40-27
From the modern BCS era: Wins: PAC: 12 SEC: 11
Matchup ______________ winner---Result---Spread on game
2000 #3 Bama @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 35-24 Bama by 7
2001 #17 UCLA @#25 Bama-UCLA, _20-17 Bama by 2
2002 Auburn @ #19 USC __ USC,__ 24-17 USC _ by 7
2002 MissSt @ #15 Oregon_Oregon, 36-13 Oregonby 13
2003 #13 LSU @ Arizona __ LSU, __ 59-13 LSU _ by 11
2003 #8 USC @ #6 Auburn-USC, __ 23-00 Auburnby 3
2003 Oregon @ Miss St ___ Oregon, 42-34 Oregonby 3
2004 Oregon St @ #4 LSU_ LSU, __ 22-21 LSU __ by 18 (OT)
2005 #5 LSU @ #15 ArizSt- LSU, __ 35-31 Ariz St by 1
2005 Arkansas @ #1 USC _ USC, _ 70-17 USC __ by 30
2006 Arizona @ #8 LSU ___ LSU, __ 45-03 LSU __ by 15
2006 #9 Cal @ #23 Tenn _ Tenn, __ 35-18 Cal __ by 2
2006 #6 USC @ Arkansas _ USC, __ 50-14 USC _ by 7
2006 Wash St @ #4 Auburn-Auburn, 40-14 Auburn by 14
2007 #15 Tenn @ #12 Cal_ Cal, ___ 45-31 Cal __ by 6
2008 #18 Tenn @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 27-24 Tenn _ by 7.5 (OT)
2008 #3 Georgia @ ArizSt_ Georgia- 27-10 Georgiaby 7
2009 #11 LSU @ Washing _ LSU, ___ 31-23 LSU __ by 17.5
2009 UCLA @ Tennessee __ UCLA, _ 19-15 Tenn __ by 8
2009 ArizSt @ #21Georgia- Georgia- 20-17 Georgiaby 13
2010 #7 Oregon @ Tenn __ Oregon,- 48-13 Oregon by 10.5
2011 #2 Oregon vs #1 Auburn AU,__ 22-19 Auburn by 1.5
2011 #3 Oregon vs #4 LSU _ LSU, __ 40-27 LSU __ by 1.5
From the Modern Football Era(the BCS)the PAC has won 12 vs 11 SEC.
Also one can see the PAC is 14-8-1 against the spread vs the SEC.
Head2head- The SEC has been hardly superior to the PAC.
Posted on 1/30/12 at 10:34 pm to Daigeaux
shut up... still too soon
Posted on 1/30/12 at 11:56 pm to Frankie Knuckles
From 1970-1979 Bear Bryant won 8 SEC titles at Bama. Auburn has 7 SEC titles in their history. Think about that for a second, because Auburn's a top 15 program all time.
Alabama won 5 in a row from 71-75, and Florida won 4 in a row from 93-96. Nobody's gonna do that anytime soon, if that's what you mean by dominate.
Alabama won 5 in a row from 71-75, and Florida won 4 in a row from 93-96. Nobody's gonna do that anytime soon, if that's what you mean by dominate.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 6:05 am to 3rdandlong83
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From 1970-1979 Bear Bryant won 8 SEC titles at Bama. Auburn has 7 SEC titles in their history. Think about that for a second, because Auburn's a top 15 program all time.
Damn you are right. I thought it was 5 in 10 yrs of the 70's but its 8 out of 10 yrs. That might never be approached again much less tied or beat it. I would define dominance as 1/2 or better of an 6-10yr period.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 6:27 am to bama1959
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I would define dominance as 1/2 or better of an 6-10yr period.
I guess we would fit the bill
91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 00
Posted on 1/31/12 at 6:40 am to KajunGator
Florida did dominate the SEC in the mid-90s. That much is true. Had you not herp derped it in '97 you would have matched the five straight SEC titles Alabama won under Bryant from 1971-1975.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 6:41 am
Posted on 1/31/12 at 6:49 am to RollTide1987
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Had you not herp derped it in '97
Losing to LSU and UGA that year sucked, but not as bad as losing to UT the year after. It was the Only SEC loss we had....and it was by 3 points IN Tennessee.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 10:05 am to KajunGator
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I guess we would fit the bill
91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 00
Absolutely. Coach Spurrier was the best coach in CFB during the 90's. I remember thinking we had to beat him to win the SEC and NC. And I always thought odds would be against it. In 92' Florida was having an off year but they still almost beat us in the first SECCG and we were undefeated.
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