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re: No real effort to find a coach at LSU
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to 4Ghost
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 pm to 4Ghost
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got banned from the Coaching Board, maybe I could have been more eloquent. However, my feeling was they never really had the money the fans thought they had. I will leave it at that.
You got banned because you're ignorant. Lsu is one of if not the most PROFITABLE Athletic's department in the sec.
You're right, we NEVER pay for coaches......except for the fact that we had the highest paid staff in the sec for years.
The problem that arose is that Joe alleva is a sack of shite that didn't want to just come out and say that he WANTED CEO this whole time and never really was going to seriously look anywhere else.
All we can do as fans is get behind the man and hope like hell he can do an adequate job.
Let's not act like herman was a groundbreaking hire. He hasn't proven shite and neither has CEO.
The difference is if herman sucks we were stuck for 5 years and 30 to 40 million while CEO only 10 tops
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:25 pm to 4Ghost
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However, my feeling was they never really had the money the fans thought they had. I will leave it at that.
It became a question of reasonable value it appears.
Fisher was floated a proposal that was way over what he is making even after you factor in state income taxes. Sexton started chiseling the offer evidently to get a bidding war with FSU or Jimbo eventually got to a decision point and said no - take your pick of endings there.
Herman had verbally agreed to deal with LSU. His agent, Trace Armstrong, was keeping prominent UT boosters involved on the sideline the whole time - hence the story leak during LSU game Thursday night. Herman backed out of verbal deal once UT lost and wanted to see offer from UT. UT could drive the price to anything they wanted - Alleva punted.
Orgeron accepted for much lower HC pay with provisions to pay superior $$ to superior OC/DC.
The bottom line issue here is latent risk. Fisher was not a big risk but wanted long term very high dollar money if he was even willing to come. Herman was going to take Saban money and was a much higher risk for that cost - but not for lesser cost of verbal agreed deal. LSU offered him more than UT from what it sounds (mid 5's allegedly).
Orgeron deal is a higher risk on performance side but is a low money risk because if he fails to meet objectives then the buyouts are reasonable if needed.
If Fisher or Herman failed the program was sunk for a while until buyouts were achievable.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:25 pm to LSUMofro
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No firm was used for a coaching search.
I don't think I have ever understood the benefit of these. Using a headhunter to find a good Supply Chain leader in manufacturing for heavy equipment is one thing. You really need to pay big money to an outside firm to tell you how good someone is in your profession when it has an entire industry dedicated to televising, publishing, and archiving the results?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:37 pm to the808bass
Money was not the issue at all. LSU football ranks near the top of the NCAA in money made. We only save 3 -4 mill. I don't get the Firing of Les Miles if all we were going to do is balk on two different coaches and hire a coach just because he loves LSU... And it's his dream job. I mean, there are a lot of home grown coaches with this dream. You don't pick a coach solely because he wants the job... Because really - that's all Alleva did. The players are going to almost always pull of the in-house guy. And even if it WAS about money... You had about 20 other coaches that were more qualified you could have gotten for the same money... AKA PJ FLECK.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:38 pm to WHATDOINO
Ignorant, Nawwww, and you just proved me right on the other part of my post. Thanks!
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:22 pm to Ag Zwin
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I don't think I have ever understood the benefit of these.
There was no need for LSU to hire a headhunter or coaching search firm because there was NO search.
Alleva wanted Coach O all along. He feinted to Herman. He feinted to Jimbo. Then he claimed to aggressively pursue the very best coach available before he settled on Coach O.
Only the most gullible and naive LSU football fanatic can believe Alleva's lies at this point. Alleva is NOT an LSU football fanatic, but he UNDERSTANDS LSU football fanatics and he knows how to SWINDLE LSU football fanatics with lies, deceptions and half-truths.
Alleva is not from Louisiana, he was never a student at LSU, he does not bleed purple and gold and he absolutely does not give a damn about leaving no stone unturned to make LSU an elite championship football program.
As I have said before, Alleva has signaled Surrender to the Might of Saban. Why bother blowing a huge sum of money on a legit, proven winning HC when LSU has no chance to be as good as Bama so long as Saban is there?
I understand his reasoning for not wanting to blow tens of millions again after blowing huge sums on Miles. But, why does he have to be such a liar about the whole deal? Why does he feel the need to insult the intelligence of anyone and everyone who is informed about college football?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:34 pm to LSUMofro
Everyone not an LSU fan knows that they went the path of least resistance. Congrats.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:53 pm to LSUMofro
You suck
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:54 pm to LSUMofro
C'mon guys, give Alleva a break. Who has time to perform a national HC search when you're having to spend six weeks posturing over a hurricane-delayed game? You all know that you were cheering him on through all of that so you have to bear some of the blame for this.
Get your priorities in order.
Get your priorities in order.
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