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Nick Saban is without a doubt a GOAT….
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:18 pm
But at some point everyone will realize it’s because of BAMA that coaches have a chance at being the goat.
Keep seeing these “when Saban leaves y’all are screwed” threads.
But the truth is, we did it for Bear, we did it for Nick, and we will do it again for some other guy.
We will have our ups and downs, that’s just a fact. But make no mistake, there will be another guy.
Happy New Year and a Roll Tide!
Keep seeing these “when Saban leaves y’all are screwed” threads.
But the truth is, we did it for Bear, we did it for Nick, and we will do it again for some other guy.
We will have our ups and downs, that’s just a fact. But make no mistake, there will be another guy.
Happy New Year and a Roll Tide!
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:19 pm to BC_t_AD
Dear Diary…
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:20 pm to BC_t_AD
We would still be living in the past if all the stars didn't align to get Saban when we did.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:20 pm to Mulkey Man
It’s not Bama it’s Saban.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:21 pm to BC_t_AD
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BC_t_AD
…kicks down door, throws in grenade, walks away laughing….
Well done, Sir.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:27 pm to BC_t_AD
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But the truth is, we did it for Bear, we did it for Nick, and we will do it again for some other guy.
No. Just, no.
Saban has proved something that should be appreciated. Plenty of coaches - especially those at top tier power schools - have proven they can put together a good team on a cycle while not sinking more than a couple wins on a season while they get the next big run ready to go.
Nick Saban is the Henry Ford of college football. He's shown something that should be studied, to the Nth degree. He's shown how you consistently stay on top - with a rotating schedule of players. The man is literally a brilliant manager. Absolutely brilliant.
He did it in Tuscaloosa. Frankly, he could have done it anywhere. Enjoy having him. Start pouring the footer for the golden statue.
His talent - and I don't even know if he knows the term - is Operations Management. He's off the charts at it.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:29 pm to BC_t_AD
They aren't talking about Bama's ability to win the conference or even championships. That has and will continue as you state.
They are talking about the pure dominance and near forgone conclusion of a CFP/BCS championship before the season starts no matter the turnover in staff or personnel.
It is like no other football dynasty beyond some of those incredible lesser division runs like Mt Union.
Bama lucked into two once in a lifetime coaches to go along with and build upon a strong tradition of more sporadic success.
Bama will be Bama beyond Saban, but it is foolish and a disservice to the next HC, to expect what we have now.
Plus, the time clock on his tenure gives the rest of the conference hope.
They are talking about the pure dominance and near forgone conclusion of a CFP/BCS championship before the season starts no matter the turnover in staff or personnel.
It is like no other football dynasty beyond some of those incredible lesser division runs like Mt Union.
Bama lucked into two once in a lifetime coaches to go along with and build upon a strong tradition of more sporadic success.
Bama will be Bama beyond Saban, but it is foolish and a disservice to the next HC, to expect what we have now.
Plus, the time clock on his tenure gives the rest of the conference hope.
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:30 pm to BC_t_AD
You cheated throughout history and went 20 years sucking.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:33 pm to BC_t_AD
Just STFU. There was a decade between Thomas and Bryant, 25 years between Bryant and Saban. The school name may have helped hire Saban, but the name didn't do much between 1982 and 2008, or between 1946 to 1958 either.
God has not passed h[s hand over Alabama football. No, it was good hires by men, and unwavering support by other men, during a time other schools had yet to understand the value of a championship football team. When the school suddenly decided for a short period of time that football was too important, we ended up with Bill Curry... a hire eerily similar to many at other schools.
I was in Tuscaloosa at the end of Coach Bryant's tenure and listen to that shite, thought it ignorant and entitled then. That is what it sounds like now.
God has not passed h[s hand over Alabama football. No, it was good hires by men, and unwavering support by other men, during a time other schools had yet to understand the value of a championship football team. When the school suddenly decided for a short period of time that football was too important, we ended up with Bill Curry... a hire eerily similar to many at other schools.
I was in Tuscaloosa at the end of Coach Bryant's tenure and listen to that shite, thought it ignorant and entitled then. That is what it sounds like now.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:36 pm to BC_t_AD
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But at some point everyone will realize it’s because of BAMA that coaches have a chance at being the goat.
I agree that Bama contributes, but if it was just Bama, the top tier list of GOAT coaches would include:
Bill Curry
Gene Stallings
Mike Dubose
Mike Price
Dennis Franchione
Mike Shula
Y’all fricking hated them (except Stallings after your PTB ran him off).
So odds are, whoever follows Saban, and for decades after, will be subpar and turn you into the most obnoxiously frustrated fanbase in the country.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:37 pm to FreddieMac
The two greatest coaches of all-time have coached at one school...coincidental?, or a combination of factors that allowed two great coaches to achieve their potential
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:37 pm to BC_t_AD
Agreed. Nick Saban didn’t make Alabama, Alabama made Nick Saban. Bama had 12 national championships before he got there.
Look at it like Ohio State & LSU right now. There was Tressel, then Urban, now Ryan Day, all playing for or winning national championships. Saban, then Les Miles, then Coach O, and now Brian Kelly played for or won some natty’s. This is because they are football schools, and not going anywhere.
Saban will leave Bama soon, it’ll be an adjustment, but Bama isn’t going anywhere. We’ll continue to be a national power just like the other football schools.
Look at it like Ohio State & LSU right now. There was Tressel, then Urban, now Ryan Day, all playing for or winning national championships. Saban, then Les Miles, then Coach O, and now Brian Kelly played for or won some natty’s. This is because they are football schools, and not going anywhere.
Saban will leave Bama soon, it’ll be an adjustment, but Bama isn’t going anywhere. We’ll continue to be a national power just like the other football schools.
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:42 pm to SBC
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and went 20 years sucking.
What 20 years would that be?
Bryant retired in 1982. In the 1981 season, Alabama played in the Cotton Bowl as co-SEC champs with UGA.
Bill Curry won an SEC title in 1989.
Gene Stallings came to Bama in 1990 and won 70 games and a national title in 7 years. His last season (1996) ended 10-3, tied for 1st in the west, and ranked 11th.
Mike Dubose won an SEC title in 1999.
Nick Saban arrived in 2007 and played for the SEC title in his second season.
Alabama has won at least 1 SEC title every decade the conference has existed. The narrative of '20 years sucking' is absolute fantasy.
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:43 pm to FreddieMac
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It’s not Bama it’s Saban.
Saban picked Alabama because he felt they would do what it took to take their program to the level he wanted. He left lsu for a reason…….
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:45 pm to BC_t_AD
It's the combination that produced consistency, but only made possible by the GOAT. He's the X factor, not Bama.
Bama will likely remain a top tier team after Saban is gone, but there are several of those every year. Finding someone that can come in and replicate Saban's consistency is 100% a crapshoot since there isn't another coach that has done it.
Bama will likely remain a top tier team after Saban is gone, but there are several of those every year. Finding someone that can come in and replicate Saban's consistency is 100% a crapshoot since there isn't another coach that has done it.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:48 pm to StringedInstruments
The general point of your post isn't wrong. It's going to take a strong personality to follow Saban and just being the coach at Alabama doesn't make you a great coach.
Stallings, however, doesn't belong on your list. He was exceptional. 70 wins in 7 years when the regular season was 11 games, 3 SECCG appearances, and a national title would make him the best of all time in most any other program.
Stallings, however, doesn't belong on your list. He was exceptional. 70 wins in 7 years when the regular season was 11 games, 3 SECCG appearances, and a national title would make him the best of all time in most any other program.
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:49 pm to SBC
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You cheated throughout history and went 20 years sucking.
Everyone has always cheated and exploited every loophole. There are no "clean teams."
And, what 20 year span has Bama ever sucked. I'll give you 10-12 year stretches of being more bad than good.
Between 1997-2007 is arguably the worst stretch of Bama football since the 50s and Bama had a Conf Title and 3 x 10-win seasons. Many a team would take that decade
Posted on 1/1/22 at 6:54 pm to BC_t_AD
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We will have our ups and downs, that’s just a fact. But make no mistake, there will be another guy.
You will get down voted by Bama haters but your analysis is correct. Bama is one of a handful of programs that have a mystique that coaches see as an easier path to reach the pinnacle.
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