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re: Nick Marshall in cuffs - NOW WITH VIDEO

Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:53 pm to
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The fine is small compared to having a criminal conviction history.



I'm specializing in bankruptcy and have not had many criminal law classes but if I'm not mistaken, paying the fine is admitting guilt, waiving your right to a trial

therefore, it is a conviction

Posted by crimsonian
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:54 pm to
They gave him a citation instead of having to arrest him.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:54 pm to
And the other? Just give up bro, its not helping your case.
Posted by crimsonian
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:55 pm to
It is. He would have done the same after an arrest. He isn't paying a traffic ticket.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:55 pm to
Yeah he will anytime caught with possession of a controlled substance you are assigned a FBI # for NCIC/NAC.

#winning!
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:55 pm to
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Which he wont have


He will if he pays the fine, paying the fine is a guilty plea to his misdemeanor charge.

He can hire a lawyer and try to get the fine and charges reduced, it would be up to the DA if they would reduce the misdemeanor charge, most likely they drop the window tint fine and reduce the $1000 fine.

Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:56 pm to
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He isn't paying a traffic ticket.


when you pay a traffic ticket, you're admitting guilt

you have a right to trial
Posted by crimsonian
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:57 pm to
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And the other? Just give up bro, its not helping your case.


You mean the part about it won't be gone. Let him pay the fine and see if it is gone.

Maybe you should give up.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:58 pm to
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He can hire a lawyer and try to get the fine and charges reduced, it would be up to the DA if they would reduce the misdemeanor charge, most likely they drop the window tint fine and reduce the $1000 fine


If he is smart, this is what he will do. His record will be wiped clean as soon as he does what the judge orders.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:58 pm to
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I'm specializing in bankruptcy and have not had many criminal law classes but if I'm not mistaken, paying the fine is admitting guilt, waiving your right to a trial

therefore, it is a conviction


It is, you save the court costs a judge will tack on, but you still end up with a misdemeanor conviction.

The way this effects your life ranges from job opportunities to traveling around the world.

It isn't as bad a felony as most employers only care about a conviction within the past 5-7 years.
Posted by crimsonian
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:58 pm to
Yes you do. You won't have the same as a misdemeanor drug on your record.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:59 pm to
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His record will be wiped clean as soon as he does what the judge orders.


No, he lawyer might be able to get it expunged at a later date, but it doesn't just disappear after he meets the requirements set by the judge.
Posted by crimsonian
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 5:59 pm to
Why would he do all that for a simple ticket?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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If he is smart, this is what he will do. His record will be wiped clean as soon as he does what the judge orders.


Possession of a controlled substance doesn't get completely thrown away. He will be assigned a FBI # and anytime he is pulled over/stopped they will know.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Yes you do. You won't have the same as a misdemeanor drug on your record.


so he did not receive a ticket? or he did?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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when you pay a traffic ticket, you're admitting guilt

you have a right to trial


You do, you also have a right to face your accuser (the LEO), if he doesn't show up to the court date the ticket is usually tossed out by the judge.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:00 pm to
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he lawyer might be able to get it expunged at a later date


That is what I mean.

And after a time, it wont show up on employment background checks.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:01 pm to
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so he did not receive a ticket? or he did?


Ticket or not it's a possession charge. Misdemeanor or felony doesn't matter it's recorded.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:01 pm to
The last few posts are amazing at what all will happen for this simple "ticket".
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 6:02 pm to
Same reason people do it for speeding tickets. To keep a clean record and avoid any of the consequences of having the citation on his record.
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