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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:17 pm to Florida225
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Florida225
Learn how to respond to specific posters.
Because surely you aren't telling me to let anything go, when my post was a direct response to an LSU fan's post just a few above mine.
I didn't realize that responding appropriately in the flow of conversation is not welcome. All arguments now end with LSU fans having the final say!
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:21 pm to WG_Dawg
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You realized mett has played in a full nother game right idiot? They're both throwing 2.5 TDs/game, Mett is throwing for 65% compared to Murray's 72%, has a 194 rating compared to Murray's 202, and is throwing for 256 ypg compared to murray's 346.
So..yeah. Murray has been better this year
Not to belittle Murray, but it should be noted that LSU has taken it's foot off the gas in every game this year but 1 (TCU). That fact skews the yardage a bit and hurts Mett's changes for more TDs. UGA has had to score pretty much all game in it's contests allowing for Murray to put up more yards and TDs.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:25 pm to LsuTool
So? Everytime a stat comes back not in LSU's favor why does it have to come with a qualifier? Whenever we hear about Murray's record vs ranked teams, nobody says
-well in this game their best offensive weapon was out
-in this game their RB was hurt
-in this game the defense was lousy
-etc etc etc
All we hear is the record. And to counter your point, I will admit that mett's yardage might take a hit for the reason you stated, but 90 ypg more is quite a bit. Also, completion percentage and QB rating isn't affected by when you stop throwing.
-well in this game their best offensive weapon was out
-in this game their RB was hurt
-in this game the defense was lousy
-etc etc etc
All we hear is the record. And to counter your point, I will admit that mett's yardage might take a hit for the reason you stated, but 90 ypg more is quite a bit. Also, completion percentage and QB rating isn't affected by when you stop throwing.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:28 pm to WillHarsha
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:32 pm to WG_Dawg
How about WillHarsha's point that Mett is a bust.
Do you think Mett is a bust?
Do you think Mett is a bust?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:35 pm to Festus
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Do you think Mett is a bust?
No, not based on the expectations I personally saw ahead of him.
I've said before...I watched several practices in person when he was at UGA, know people that work for the team and did then as well, heard coaches talk, etc. Mett was never going to overtake Murray. So he went from 2nd string here to JUCO and did well, went to LSU and did average, and is now playing very well.
Taking all that into consideration, I'd say he's doing about like I expected. He always had massive amounts of potential. But at UGA he was a skinny, punk shithead with bad footwork and a bad attitude who couldn't read a defense. He's progressed a lot, obviously. So...unless you (or anyone) thought he was going to be all SEC and a heisman finalist, why would I consider him a bust?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:35 pm to WG_Dawg
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So? Everytime a stat comes back not in LSU's favor why does it have to come with a qualifier? Whenever we hear about Murray's record vs ranked teams, nobody says
-well in this game their best offensive weapon was out
-in this game their RB was hurt
-in this game the defense was lousy
-etc etc etc
we're the best fans in college football dude.
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Also, completion percentage and QB rating isn't affected by when you stop throwing.
I agree, Murray has been more accurate than Mett.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:36 pm to S
I've seen reasonable UGA fans acknowledge that Mett is the better pro prospect on here so I don't see what all the debate is for. Murray is the better of the 2 college QBs which is not to slight Mett since Murray has been outstanding. He's fixing to set the all-time SEC passing record set by Peyton Manning while spending most of his career behind an iffy OL. He's clearly doing a lot if things right. Mett's ceiling is higher, Murray is more proven as of now. I don't see the big deal. Lots of knit picking on both sides.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:39 pm to WG_Dawg
I don't know, WillHarsha said he was a bust. And when LSU people responded showing he wasn't, you seem to take offense and make it out like all LSU fans are making him out to be the greatest QB. When they were responding to a guy calling him out as a bust. So I wondered whether or not you considered him a bust.
I read somewhere that he had beaten out Murray before he left UGA?
I read somewhere that he had beaten out Murray before he left UGA?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:40 pm to Suck Out West
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Murray is the better of the 2 college QBs
he's had a longer college tenure.
I'll let this season play out before I nominate Murray better than Mett in 2013. When LSU gets in real battles, Mett will be allowed to sling it around in the 3rd and 4th QTRs rather than Les running the clock and mostly throwing on 3rd downs.
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He's clearly doing a lot if things right. Mett's ceiling is higher, Murray is more proven as of now.
agree
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:41 pm to Festus
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when LSU people responded showing he wasn't, you seem to take offense
Please show me where I said mett has been a bust. I jumped into this thread 7 pages later (and still haven't read the first 7 pages), so if my posts have been taken to mean something else then my bad.
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I wondered whether or not you considered him a bust.
Not a bust, but not all that great either taking his whole body of work into account.
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I read somewhere that he had beaten out Murray before he left UGA?
Undoubtedly on the tiger rant.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:43 pm to LsuTool
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he's had a longer college tenure
Well, that's part of it. If we're not to judge based on someone's full body of work, what are we supposed to use? What they did in their last game only?
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agree
everybody in the whole stinkin thread had agreed on the 1st point, and every non-lsu fan in the thread has agreed with the 2nd. So why are we still doing this?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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What they did in their last game only?
I think the 2013 season is a good barometer. It's what scouts will likely put the most emphasis on and it's the first season that Mett has played in an offense that wasn't as fricked up a soup sandwich, as far as LSU is concerned.
With that said unless Mett wins the NC, Murray will have likely had a better college career, even if LSU won it, the #s Murray have put up have been really good and a case could be made for him.
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So why are we still doing this?
idk about you, but i get off work at 430.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:56 pm to WG_Dawg
No shame in saying that as of right now, Murray is the better college QB. He's done enough in my eyes. Maybe that changes by December. We'll see. I care more about who has the better team and who has a better chance to get to, and win in Atlanta. But that's for another thread.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:00 pm to wadewilson
The scouts are talking about right now. Still a lot of ball to play. If Mett keeps it up - its Mett. Im most impressed with his development on movement within the pocket.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:52 pm to Suck Out West
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I've seen reasonable UGA fans acknowledge that Mett is the better pro prospect on here so I don't see what all the debate is for. Murray is the better of the 2 college QBs which is not to slight Mett since Murray has been outstanding. He's fixing to set the all-time SEC passing record set by Peyton Manning while spending most of his career behind an iffy OL. He's clearly doing a lot if things right. Mett's ceiling is higher, Murray is more proven as of now.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:58 pm to bigpapamac
Champ rings or bust.
Can either mett or Murray win one? That's the real question, and at this point unanswerable.
Can either mett or Murray win one? That's the real question, and at this point unanswerable.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 5:10 pm to BigEdLSU
So AJ > either Mett or Murray?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:37 pm to BigEdLSU
So Trent Dilfer is better than Marino?
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