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re: New York Times to pay former BAMA B-Ball player $9.25 million

Posted on 8/21/26 at 6:59 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 6:59 am to
I saw an article that said the kid was a walk-on. He didn't get NIL when he walked on, but he is making up for it now. Good for him. Anything that weakens the NY Times makes the USA stronger.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:06 am to
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What would you have easily charged him with, Luc?

Too much Bama?


Under Alabama’s complicity law, you do not have to pull the trigger or physically kill the person to be convicted of murder. Intentionally helping or providing a weapon/means to commit the act. Because you share legal accountability, an accomplice to murder faces a Class A felony charge, punishable by 10 years to life in prison, or a capital murder charge if aggravating factors apply (carrying potential death or life-without-parole sentences).

A district attorney can indict a ham sandwich if he wants to. It's an extremely low bar. If Brandon Miller was John Smith, he'd probably be behind bars right now.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
55263 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:09 am to
I've never heard of the kid. Glad they are holding people accountable but that award is insane
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54980 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:32 am to
I read Miller's account and yes it clears Kai. Not like anyone cared about him

It still spells out Oats needs to get his program under control.

This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 7:34 am
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
31708 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:43 am to
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Under Alabama’s complicity law, you do not have to pull the trigger or physically kill the person to be convicted of murder. Intentionally helping or providing a weapon/means to commit the act.

You’re confusing Brandon Miller with Darius Miles.

Miles was kicked off the basketball team initially and is still sitting in prison awaiting trial because of alleged complicity.

And he didn’t murder anyone either.

Message boards don’t indict rival players. Real legal systems do. Stop believing conspiracies that a news outlet pushed for ratings.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
19560 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:45 am to
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Under Alabama’s complicity law, you do not have to pull the trigger or physically kill the person to be convicted of murder. Intentionally helping or providing a weapon/means to commit the act. Because you share legal accountability, an accomplice to murder faces a Class A felony charge, punishable by 10 years to life in prison, or a capital murder charge if aggravating factors apply (carrying potential death or life-without-parole sentences).


It's always amusing when random posters on tRant think they know more than the actual DA involved in the case.

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Asked by AL.com why Miller was not charged, Tuscaloosa chief deputy D.A. Paula Whitley said, “That’s not a question I can answer. There’s nothing we could charge him with,’’ according to the law, she said.


Why wasn’t Brandon Miller charged?



Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
31708 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:55 am to
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It still spells out Oats needs to get his program under control

Maybe he can wait until right before the season and retire, so we're forced to hire his son.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2313 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:56 am to
Why in the world did this go to trial?

Rodo
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29644 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:58 am to
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I saw an article that said the kid was a walk-on. He didn't get NIL when he walked on, but he is making up for it now. Good for him. Anything that weakens the NY Times makes the USA stronger.


This was the first time in over 50 years that the NYT had lost a defamation case.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:01 am to
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Message boards don’t indict rival players. Real legal systems do.


I'm a member of that "real legal system" and I'm telling you they could have indicted him if they wanted to. The reason they did not is obvious. Oats had him on a plane to South Carolina the following day. No suspension. No investigation. No nothing.
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
31708 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:06 am to
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I'm telling you they could have indicted him if they wanted to

So the point you're making is that they should've just because they could?

He's the ham sandwich in this scenario, and you recognize his name, so they should've indicted him?

Because they wanted to?

Not because there was anything they found that he actually did?

Is this how the law works in Louisiana?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
19560 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:10 am to
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I'm a member of that "real legal system"


This is a scary thought considering you seem to think DAs indict people.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
22591 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:13 am to
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A district attorney can indict a ham sandwich if he wants to. It's an extremely low bar.

Not if they want to risk being disbarred and/or not re-elected for fraud, waste, and abuse of taxpayer dollars. Prosecutors are ethically barred from bringing charges that are not supported by probable cause. Beyond that, they aim to bring cases they believe they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

While Miles texted Miller asking him to bring "his joint," testimony indicated Miller did not handle the gun, did not hand it over, was not involved in the initial dispute, and was unaware that a violent confrontation was going to take place.

He was fully cooperative in handing over cell phone records, dash cam videos, and as a witness for the state.

The DA exercised her prosecutorial discretion as Miller made a stronger witness for the case than he did a co-defendant with weak probable cause (at best) established.

Was it poor judgement, sure. But, poor judgement isn't always a crime and the degree of negligence on Miller's part wasn't established to justify charges.

At the end of the day, two parties acted ignorantly and someone died over nothing.


Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:16 am to
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Is this how the law works in Louisiana?


I'm not licensed in Louisiana. I am licensed in Alabama. If Brandon Miller was not a star basketball player at the University of Alabama the Tuscaloosa County DA's Office would have indicted him for murder for delivering the murder weapon to the scene of the crime. There is no question. None.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:17 am to
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This is a scary thought considering you seem to think DAs indict people.


Have you ever served on a grand jury?
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
31708 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:18 am to
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If Brandon Miller was not a star basketball player at the University of Alabama the Tuscaloosa County DA's Office would have indicted him for murder

Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
19560 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:21 am to
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Have you ever served on a grand jury?


Oh, you know what a grand jury is? Did you just look that up?

Either way, I guess you now know that a grand jury indicts, rather than a DA (even though for some reason you keep talking about the DAs office indicting people in your posts). I'm glad you learned something this morning!

This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 8:32 am
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:25 am to
I'm not even sure why y'all continue to defend him. I understood it at the time because you thought you were about to make a Final Four run. Miller and company wound up getting eliminated in the Sweet 16. Remove him from the chain of custody and that young woman is still alive.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8811 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:31 am to
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I'm a member of that "real legal system" and I'm telling you they could have indicted him if they wanted to.


And apparently not very good at what you do. This is how absurd your reasoning is. Your friends walks over to your house and asks to borrow a kitchen knife. You give him the knife. He walks back over to his house, gives the knife to another person that proceeds to kill the family two houses over. And YOU get indicted for the murders. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5368 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 8:33 am to
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And apparently not very good at what you do. This is how absurd your reasoning is. Your friends walks over to your house and asks to borrow a kitchen knife. You give him the knife. He walks back over to his house, gives the knife to another person that proceeds to kill the family two houses over. And YOU get indicted for the murders. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.


Yeah, let's completely disregard the friend's text stating his intentions.
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