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re: New Ole Miss coach wants team to wear red pants.........

Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:24 pm to
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Were we aware of how much talent we had when Nutt was hired? Do we have more talent now then we aware of?



We were aware that O left us with some talent....just didn't realize how much.


And I know we have some good talent here. They're just under-developed and at a risk of losing.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:25 pm to
Our freshman class is very talented, sophomore class has a few good ones. We were extremely young this year.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:30 pm to
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We were aware that O left us with some talent....just didn't realize how much

I think this is an understatement. I remember having high hopes for Snead. But other than that no one had a clue how many absolute studs were on the team. They had such a defeatist mentality that no one knew how good they were.


I am in no way saying that we are in the same shape now, but I also don't think it's as bad as it seems. The kids had no heart this year, and the right motivation could make a huge difference. I think the strength and conditioning hire will be the most important hire Freeze makes this year.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:32 pm to
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I think the strength and conditioning hire will be the most important hire Freeze makes this year.


This x1000. One reason we got completely dominated last year is because EVERYONE was in much much better shape than we were.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:35 pm to
S&C hire is huge- especially for a bunch that has lost that work ethic...Balis was probably the best hire Mullen has made in his 3 years at State

Losing Mullen will suck, but losing Balis will be a killer
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:43 pm to
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S&C hire is huge- especially for a bunch that has lost that work ethic...Balis was probably the best hire Mullen has made in his 3 years at State

Losing Mullen will suck, but losing Balis will be a killer





I hate agreeing with you.....
Posted by CoonassBulldog
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:45 pm to
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I hate agreeing with you.....



you would be right more often if you did
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:46 pm to
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I hate agreeing with you.....

It's the truth. Our guys played and looked like they went out to the square every night.


Who was our S&C under Orgeron? A lot of our success in 08-09 might have carried over from him.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:49 pm to
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It's the truth. Our guys played and looked like they went out to the square every night.




well.....there's a reason for that.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:56 pm to
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you would be right more often if you did


Pa-POW!!!!
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:57 pm to
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you would be right more often if you did

Pa-POW!!!!



I'm sorry......My brain exploded thinking about all the Coonass predictions that turned into nothing.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:59 pm to
The only position where I see young talent on Ole Miss is WR/return specialists.

Posted by GeauxHogz
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:59 pm to
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Ole Miss had NEVER lost to a 1-AA school or lost 10 games in one year.


Never can say this again. Thanks HDN.

Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:01 pm to
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The only position where I see young talent on Ole Miss is WR/return specialists.




our skill players have some good talent everywhere but RB. Worried about that position.


LB, CB, and WR will be strong pending injuries, attrition, etc.

Need some RB's to step up bad. Maybe Nick Parker will finally get going with new coaching or maybe someone like Chief Brown will step into the role.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:05 pm to
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our skill players have some good talent everywhere but RB. Worried about that position.


LB, CB, and WR will be strong pending injuries, attrition, etc.

Need some RB's to step up bad. Maybe Nick Parker will finally get going with new coaching or maybe someone like Chief Brown will step into the role.



when you get good on the OL and DL again- you will start winning again. Thats where it begins and ends- everything else is just a compliment
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:05 pm to
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LB, CB, and WR will be strong pending injuries, attrition, etc.

Maybe LB and yes on WR. I don't see it in the secondary unless Snoop is CB full time. The safeties are a liability. I only watched your Vandy, LSU, and State games but #25 (Prewitt?) shouldn't be on the field.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:06 pm to
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when you get good on the OL and DL again- you will start winning again. Thats where it begins and ends- everything else is just a compliment

More truth
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:07 pm to
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when you get good on the OL and DL again- you will start winning again. Thats where it begins and ends- everything else is just a compliment




Both are tremendously under-developed.

Our OL is pussified thanks to Markuson but fairly deep and experienced(better coaching will help)

Our DL is very young and somewhat thin. CJ bulking up another 20-30 pounds over the summer was a blessing. We're fine in the LB corp but are desperate for DE's. Pretty sure we lost our top-3 DEs from this past season.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:10 pm to
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when you get good on the OL and DL again- you will start winning again. Thats where it begins and ends- everything else is just a compliment

Well that's just common knowledge especially with college football. Unless you have a once in a generation type QB.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:11 pm to
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#25 (Prewitt?) shouldn't be on the field.



He's a true Freshman........


As was Golson and Snoop who played a ton.

Frank Crawford and Charles Saywer are good DB's. Brishen Mathews should be back next season(back injury).







But all of this is for none if we lose some of these guys to grades. No one was making sure that our players were going to class. I'd put money on losing 3 of our better/best players for grades. Hope not though...
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