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re: New Bham News article comparing Bama NC's to Notre Dame

Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:59 am to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26310 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:59 am to
It is Barners like this guy that make me wish Nick Saban had kept his foot on the gas and beaten them by 100. Don't laugh Bama might have come close at the rate they were going.

One thing is for sure,we damn sure have more NC's than Auburn does. By anyone's count.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:59 am to
That's the Au spirit!

That has been missing for awhile. The beaming pride of cheating.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19703 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:00 am to
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You sideskirt the fact that NC Trophies were presented previous to 61.
Link?

And no, a Rose Bowl trophy was not, and still isn't, an 'NC Trophy'.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:00 am to
Any claimed NC awarded after the fact and claimed 30-50 years later based on a mathematical formula created by a random guy in California is dubious. Doesn't mean Bama wasn't the best team in the country some or all of those years, but it isn't a legitimate National Championship. Sometimes the best team in the country isn't rewarded a NC. That is part of college football. JMO, I don't really give a shite how many you want to claim.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26310 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:01 am to
Well looky here..ITS FREEP!! Where in the hell have you been hiding,behind Frosty's skirts?

The old board is still there,sans any Aubies..why is that?
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 11:02 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Any claimed NC awarded after the fact and claimed 30-50 years later based on a mathematical formula created by a random guy in California is dubious. Doesn't mean Bama wasn't the best team in the country some or all of those years, but it isn't a legitimate National Championship.


Awarded and claimed are two different things. Bama was awarded NC's the yrs they now claim. I understand it's a hard concept for lil sis' of the pasture to understand.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:02 am to
They were celebrated as champions in their day.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:02 am to
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Sure man. At least it was because of probation and not because of finishing 15th and claiming a title.


Yeah like 1941 for Bama....it is a BS stupid claim and shouldn't be counted.

I was referring to the fact that AU fans like to throw away some of Bama's titles due to losing bowl games even though Bama was crowned national champs by either the AP or UPI already.

Contrast that to Auburn in 1957, who won the AP, and didn't even play in a bowl........the similar response should be to throw that title away as well.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:03 am to
No link. I've posted it too many times. A little looking on your part will find it.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:04 am to
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And no, a Rose Bowl trophy was not, and still isn't, an 'NC Trophy'.


Up until 1934, the Rose Bowl was the ONLY bowl game there was.
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:04 am to
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lil sis' of the pasture


That doesn't offend anyone from Auburn. I would rather be an Ag school than a sub par liberal arts school.

And yeah, cheating is awesome. Something Alabama and every SEC progarm worth anything knows all about.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54839 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:05 am to
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They were celebrated as champions in their day.

Defend it all you like. The man responsible for the dubious claims still defends 1941. He was simply trying to puff up Bama during a down time and Bama fans have adopted his puffery as fact. Like I said, I don't really care. Claim any and all that you like.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:05 am to
Yall have just bout graduated from an AG school to a weapons facility after the last few yrs.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:07 am to
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One banner, sweet. Take a drive through the state of Alabama to see all the bumper stickers, license plates, etc. Take a stroll through a Walmart and look at all the shirts.

Are you a bama fan too or something? Why are you defending their bogus titles?

Because except for 1941, their titles aren't "bogus."
For the record, I've already said that Auburn should claim 1913, it's recognized by the CFDW.

Edit: Why don't y'all ever say anything to UT or OM fans about their claims?
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:09 am to
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No link. I've posted it too many times. A little looking on your part will find it.




The presentation of the Rissman Trophy to the Alabama Crimson Tide following their victory in the 1935 Rose Bowl. The award was presented during the football banquet in Tuscaloosa on Jan. 10, 1935. Pictured are (from left to right) Alabama Head Coach Frank Thomas, Alabama Team Captain Bill Lee, O. Elmer Anderson, acting president of the Tournament of Roses, President of the University of Alabama Dr. George Denny and Jack Rissman, a Chicago clothing manufacturer and the donor of the trophy.

Rissman's award had been presented annually to college football's national champion as determined by the Dickinson System, developed in the early 1920s by Frank Dickinson, a professor of economics at the University of Illinois. In 1930, that award was renamed the Knute K. Rockne Intercollegiate Memorial Trophy following the death Notre Dame coach. The arrival of the AP poll pushed the Dickinson System into obsolescence and the championship selector went defunct in 1940.

After the introduction of the Knute Rockne award, Rissman associated his namesake trophy with the Rose Bowl. A school was granted permanent possession of the award if its team had successfully won the New Year's Day game three times. Alabama's 29-13 win over Stanford in 1935 marked the Crimson Tide's third victory in the Pasadena classic.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 11:12 am
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Why don't y'all ever say anything to UT or OM fans about their claims?


Because I never hear about their claims. I hear everyday about Alabama's.
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:11 am to
We get compared with Notre Dame. Your program is historically comparable to Clemson's. Get the picture?
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:12 am to
I was about to post that. Dickinson (DiS) awarded a trophy from 1924 until 1940.
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:12 am to
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weapons facility


Pardon my ignorance, but I got no clue what you mean by that.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:12 am to
As a side note. Rissman was the surname of a family that later changed their name to Saban. Mr Rissman is on the far right.
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