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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:36 pm to RedMustang
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:36 pm to RedMustang
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Pretty close:
Really? I'm not seeing it. And whoever wrote that was reaching really hard to make it appear Saban had some direct influence on the committee:
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Nick had this to say to the NCAA Rules Committee about the dangers of the spread/no-huddle offense:
He followed that with a Saban quote from 2012 but failed to cite when or where he said it or even provide a link. If someone happens to read that and infer that Saban made the comments directly to the committee? I'm sure that wasn't the author's intent at all.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:44 pm to sarc
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:17 am to Evolved Simian
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Even the most hurry up teams only do this a handful of times a game.
It isn't the time of the snap, but the ability for defenses to sub that's BS.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:22 am to undecided
I hope this passes. I hate the HUHN and if my team ran it I'd still hate it.
It just makes the game too arcade, arena football and less strategic in general.
I know deep down Auburn fans want to see their team return to playing grown man football ala Bo Jackson.
The idea that Alabama is weak to HUHN is a fallacy anyway. They play and beat teams who do the HUHN all the time. On the occasions they have lost to HUHN those teams are also top #10 opponents. Alabama has lost those games becasue their opponents were good teams that played well that game, rather than anything schematic.
It just makes the game too arcade, arena football and less strategic in general.
I know deep down Auburn fans want to see their team return to playing grown man football ala Bo Jackson.
The idea that Alabama is weak to HUHN is a fallacy anyway. They play and beat teams who do the HUHN all the time. On the occasions they have lost to HUHN those teams are also top #10 opponents. Alabama has lost those games becasue their opponents were good teams that played well that game, rather than anything schematic.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 12:28 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:31 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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I don't care much about the hurry up, I just hope they do something to outlaw fake injuries, or at least make it to where it is extremely difficult to benefit from.
It's already against the Code of Ethics, but there's no way to enforce it on the field.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:40 am to rocksteady
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Can you separate yourself as a bama fan for one nano second? This proposed rule change is absurd, and if you can do that, you would agree. It's coming down under "player safety" and not one single person has been able to point out where the safety issue lies. It's a garbage idea, plain and simple. Sure, HUNH teams are a pain in the arse for the bama's and LSU's on the world, but its a game plan/strategy. It's not cheating or deceptive in anyway
THIS!
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:51 am to Landmass
This thread has only served to make me hate everything Alabama even more than usual.
You Bama fans cannot step back and think about just how stupid and damaging to the game this rule would be. At this point just say that football is too dangerous and stop playing.
F Bama!
You Bama fans cannot step back and think about just how stupid and damaging to the game this rule would be. At this point just say that football is too dangerous and stop playing.
F Bama!
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:55 am to Landmass
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This thread has only served to make me hate everything Alabama even more than usual.
Good, now go frick yourself. And it's not just Bama fans and Saban you idget.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:00 am to 2close2Gainesville
No... it's your fans' reaction supporting such a damn retarded rule. Go suck a dick.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:02 am to 2close2Gainesville
I'm still wrapping my head around why allowing the defense to sub without any changes to offensive personnel is going to:
- Enhance player safety
or
- do anything but help defenses
Does the play clock stop for the 10 seconds of defensive substitutions?
- Enhance player safety
or
- do anything but help defenses
Does the play clock stop for the 10 seconds of defensive substitutions?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:05 am to Golfer
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Does the play clock stop for the 10 seconds of defensive substitutions?
No. You get a "delay of game" penalty if you snap before the playclock has 29 seconds on it.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:06 am to Golfer
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- do anything but help defenses
Offenses get enough help as it is. Offense will still control the pace, just allow D to sub if needed.
As for player safety, it's more than a few coaches saying this as well. Don't know whether you can say one way or the other.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:08 am to Landmass
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You get a "delay of game" penalty if you snap before the playclock has 29 seconds on it.
I do find this stupid, however.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:09 am to Landmass
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Can you separate yourself as a bama fan for one nano second? This proposed rule change is absurd, and if you can do that, you would agree. It's coming down under "player safety" and not one single person has been able to point out where the safety issue lies. It's a garbage idea, plain and simple. Sure, HUNH teams are a pain in the arse for the bama's and LSU's on the world, but its a game plan/strategy. It's not cheating or deceptive in anyway
I can't argue this
The injury argument especially is a spurious one IMO
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:11 am to Landmass
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No. You get a "delay of game" penalty if you snap before the playclock has 29 seconds on it.
So this effectively shortens the play clock by 10 seconds.
Defense will substitute at 32 seconds, offense will adjust personnel then huddle at 24 seconds. Leaving less time to audible.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:13 am to 2close2Gainesville
It's been argued into the ground. Your fans are idiots and the rule sucks too. If you think it is good for football then you can go ahead and ruin the game... all because your a-hole coach has a weakness.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:16 am to Landmass
So cry about it, don't give a shite. I haven't even been arguing for it bitch.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:37 am to Dr RC
You are FOS if you are implying the offense doesn't have all the freaking leverage and the defense none.
The defenses should have as much damn right to sub on every play as the offenses have NOT only if rhe offense decides it's ok.That's total pussy azz BS football/ Bush league at that.
If you can't play real football you need to dismantle the game on your campus. Real football is a level playing field for ALL players not just offensive players.
Another thing this rule will do is do away with the advantage that HUNU offenses have on replays.
If a HUNU team traps the ball a replay official is in a quandary, does he stop the play to get a look or get accused of slowing the offense down. I noticed on these controversial type plays if a conventional offense trys to hurry up a snap the ball the replay booth will usually buzz down, but a HUNH offense is not stopped as much and plays that should get reversed never get reviewed.
This is unfair, and the 10 second rule will alow better looks at controversial plays to be more EVEN across the board.
Officials shouldn't be running to try and spot the ball anyway, they don't fo that shyt per order in the NFL, when these college officials do spot the ball quick they ate sometimes out of position to make calls the neef to make.
This stupud, ignorant chold like horseshyt should have never been allowed in the beautiful game of CFB.
Start up an areana league if you want to watch this Bush league shyt.
The defenses should have as much damn right to sub on every play as the offenses have NOT only if rhe offense decides it's ok.That's total pussy azz BS football/ Bush league at that.
If you can't play real football you need to dismantle the game on your campus. Real football is a level playing field for ALL players not just offensive players.
Another thing this rule will do is do away with the advantage that HUNU offenses have on replays.
If a HUNU team traps the ball a replay official is in a quandary, does he stop the play to get a look or get accused of slowing the offense down. I noticed on these controversial type plays if a conventional offense trys to hurry up a snap the ball the replay booth will usually buzz down, but a HUNH offense is not stopped as much and plays that should get reversed never get reviewed.
This is unfair, and the 10 second rule will alow better looks at controversial plays to be more EVEN across the board.
Officials shouldn't be running to try and spot the ball anyway, they don't fo that shyt per order in the NFL, when these college officials do spot the ball quick they ate sometimes out of position to make calls the neef to make.
This stupud, ignorant chold like horseshyt should have never been allowed in the beautiful game of CFB.
Start up an areana league if you want to watch this Bush league shyt.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:42 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:40 am to S.E.C. Crazy
If Saban can't handle the way football is played now he needs to retire. Along with all the others that are whining about it. The safety argument has been proven to be a joke and even Saban back tracked on his claims when it was shown more are hurt with his style.
Football isn't just a physical game. Its also mental. Alot of the players can handle it physically. Its the mental aspect that brings most of them problems. They can't think fast enough to know what to do and by the time it hits them what is going on, the players that may not be as athletic as them has already made a big play. If the players can't adjust to it mentally, recruit smarter players. Teach your players better techniques instead of relying so much on their physical ability to make the plays. Rules shouldn't be made to help the most physical players because they can't handle the mental aspects of the game.
If Saban and the other coaches don't like the HUNH they can go to the NFL. But they won't have a talent advantage their either.
Football isn't just a physical game. Its also mental. Alot of the players can handle it physically. Its the mental aspect that brings most of them problems. They can't think fast enough to know what to do and by the time it hits them what is going on, the players that may not be as athletic as them has already made a big play. If the players can't adjust to it mentally, recruit smarter players. Teach your players better techniques instead of relying so much on their physical ability to make the plays. Rules shouldn't be made to help the most physical players because they can't handle the mental aspects of the game.
If Saban and the other coaches don't like the HUNH they can go to the NFL. But they won't have a talent advantage their either.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:46 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:41 am to S.E.C. Crazy
If the offense substitutes the defense has time too as well. It's that simple. No rule change needed IMO.
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