re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH

Total BS, no change needed.

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The only logic flying at me is that we should just do away with even trying to play defense, because some teams can't compete with the teams that do want to play defense. Hell, we should just go to arena rules football at by the logic of some on this board.

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Dear god are you trying to be dense. This would shift the power of the game back to defense on a staggering level. It would cripple a lot of offenses save for the old out dated power running games that everyone has abandoned save for a few college teams. The NFL doesn't even run that style of offense anymore.

By allowing this time to prevent the offense you have the offense waiting before snap giving away a basic formation giving the defense time to call in a specific play and personnel package just for the view the offense is giving it.

Hate to break it to you but offenses are designed to attack, that's why they are called offense. The defense can still play and get set in time, if a defense isn't getting set vs an offense they are out of shape or poorly coached or both. There is no reason for that to happen. keep in mind a ref has to get the ball set it and get out of the way before its snapped. Amazing Auburn and several other teams figured out how to sub against very fast paced offenses but yet other coaches have the urge to complain because that style of offense puts up more points on them than they'd like.

I really wished Saban would have gone to the Big-12 and face spread teams that he has no clue how to defend.

Saban just needs to hire Chavis. Chavis doesn't seem to have trouble with HUNH.

The one thing Saban can't control he is trying to make a movement to be able to control. That guy is a control freak.

Saban, give us some of your 100 5 stars and we will slow down the game like you do. Otherwise, we got to try something, or else we might as well not even play the game.

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Saban just needs to hire Chavis. Chavis doesn't seem to have trouble with HUNH.

The one thing Saban can't control he is trying to make a movement to be able to control. That guy is a control freak.

Saban, give us some of your 100 5 stars and we will slow down the game like you do. Otherwise, we got to try something, or else we might as well not even play the game.

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Different styles of defense. LSU has a defense that's generally aimed at stopping spread teams. The defense is aimed at large guys up front on the LOS with slightly smaller faster guys at the LB position that can tackle in space. UA's defense is the more traditional defense that is designed to shut down a running game and get pressure from blitzing and an interior DL push. That's been their problem the last few years in that the DL hasn't gotten pressure and the secondary has been exposed

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He's catching heat because he's one of the leading proponents to limit HUNH offenses. The reason for this is they are directly built to counter his style of defense. Bret at Ark is another very vocal coach about this as well, out side of those two you don't hear many complain about HUNH.

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I don't disagree with any of that but people are acting like Saban is directly responsible for this proposal. How much influence do you think he has on the members or the rules committee?

Coaches Quotes:

“First off, [I] doubt it will pass,” Washington State coach Mike Leach said. “Second, it’s ridiculous. All this tinkering is ridiculous. I think it deteriorates the game. It’s always been a game of creativity and strategy. So anytime someone doesn’t want to go back to the drawing board or re-work their solutions to problems, then what they do is to beg for a rule. I think it’s disgusting.”

Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze, whose team also runs an uptempo offense, wants to know if there is actual proof that uptempo offenses cause more injuries to players.

"Is there documented medical evidence that supports this rule change that tempo offenses are putting players at a higher degree of risk than others? If there is then show it to us," Freeze told ESPN.com Wednesday night. "Where is it? They're going to have to show us some evidence. If there's not any evidence, then they should table it.

"You can do it the last two minutes of the game. Isn't that when you should be most fatigued?"

Added Leach: “That’s really insulting that they are hiding behind player safety just because somebody wants an advantage. That’s crazy.”

“All you’re trying to do is get lined up [on defense],” Saban told ESPN.com in September. “You can’t play specialty third-down stuff. You can’t hardly scheme anything. The most important thing is to get the call so the guys can get lined up, and it’s got to be a simple call. The offense kind of knows what you’re doing."

But Leach contends it’s unfair to handcuff offenses because defenses can’t keep up with the pace.

“My suggestion is rather than spending a bunch of time coming up with a bunch of really stupid rules, spend that time coaching harder,” Leach said. “Worry about your own team and try to make your product better rather than trying to change the game so you don’t have to do anything.”

Freeze also believes that allowing defenses to rotate players in and out more frequently under this rule will put offensive linemen who are a part of uptempo offenses at more risk for injury because they will potentially face fresher defensive linemen every few snaps.

"If anything, you may be making it more dangerous for the offensive line because they're going to face 12 five-star defensive linemen from Alabama rotating every three plays," he said.

To Freeze, taking away the opportunity to snap the ball as fast as possible is taking away a major fundamental advantage that any offense can use against opposing defenses, which are allowed as much movement as possible before a play is even run.

"Since the start of football, defenses can line up wherever they want to," Freeze said. "They can move around as much as they want to before the snap. … They can do whatever they want to do, that's fine. I coach defense, too, that's great. The one thing that has always been offenses' deal is snapping the ball. That's the only thing we have."

Saban sounds like a whiny arse bitch and Leach and Freeze make actual sense.

I also realized Saban/Smart got smoked by Auburn and Oklahoma. Saban has always had trouble with the Spread. Hence the rule change.

So is Saban bribing the members of the rules committee or what?

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So is Saban bribing the members of the rules committee or what?

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No, but his constant use of his hands and rambling effect hypnotized the committee to make his changes needed.