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My solution to OCnferece expansion...

Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:11 am
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:11 am
This is a very tired subject but I wanted to go on record before someone else claims this idea...

We can all agree that one of the reasons why the SEC/BIG/Pac 12 all work well is because they are regionally dominant in CFB. the schools/fans reflect the regions culture, more-so in SEC and BIG. I think that adds ALOT to the fan experience and the overall strength of the conferences.

when people talk about super conferences, they often ignore the borders set up these "regions". Example: SEC fans would balk at the thought of allowing a school like Rutgers in because they are not "sec material". this is reflected everywhere...

A lot of people want every 100+ D-1 FBS program to have an equal shot/legitimate path to winning a national championship. which is currently a ludicrous thought for most programs, but some have shown enough success to be taken seriously. on this thought it has been argued that CFB should adopt a premier league system allowing schools to get upgraded and downgraded based on their success on the field.

MY proposal: Compromise on these two facets.

let each major conference adopt a Premier league model by developing a sub conference within itself.

Example: maintain the SEC as it is now. but let other regional schools form to develop an "SEC-lite". this can be made up the following: southern MIss, Houston, UCF, WKU, etc. etc. they play a schedule and the best team at the end of the year, via a championship game, gets upgraded to SEC-Heavy" and play a schedule with the likes of Alabama/Florida/etc.

Why this could work?
- gives every school in the country a legitimate path to a championship.
- the TV money may grow because of increased interest in games that otherwise would be afterthought.
*everyone would be interested in the game against the two worst teams in "SEC-Heavy" because of the threat of them getting downgraded.
- Championship game for SEC-Lite teams playing for a chance to join "SEC-Heavy" results in another TV event.
- Fans of smaller schools having a renewed interest in the sport resulting in more dollars being spent in the sports which has a definite trickle down effect.

WHY this would not work...
- maintaining annual rivalries, especially if one team is relegated to a different part of the conference.
- the blue-bloods are not very keen on evening the playing field for inferior programs/regional schools.
- every major conference would need to adopt this model and some may not have great options to pick from. to develop their "****-LIte" side of the conference.
- telling a conference like the American Conference to fold would be a tough sell.


just a thought.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:12 am to
quote:


WHY this would not work...
- maintaining annual rivalries, especially if one team is relegated to a different part of the conference.
- the blue-bloods are not very keen on evening the playing field for inferior programs/regional schools.
- every major conference would need to adopt this model and some may not have great options to pick from. to develop their "****-LIte" side of the conference.
- telling a conference like the American Conference to fold would be a tough sell.

excellent analysis
Posted by TheSandman
AuburnUndercover
Member since Nov 2010
19409 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:13 am to
tl;dr

All that time typing and you misspell the title?
Posted by maximum overdrive
DFW
Member since Dec 2015
2205 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:13 am to

Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8598 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:18 am to
Like the minor leagues in baseball?

Interesting.

BTW, I like your inclusion of Southern Miss.
Posted by shawnwhite
Member since Aug 2016
76 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:19 am to
good post. I've often thought about how the relegation system would look in sports here in the USA... like you said, it certainly would make those "bottom of the barrel" games much more interesting.

but in the end, I don't think it would be successful because recruiting is different than being able to pay for a star player. no highly touted recruits would want to play for a lower level team - no big-time matchups, very little national exposure, etc etc
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3836 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:43 am to
quote:

OCnferece


What the frick is this?

Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5144 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:53 am to
Hard to take that wall of text seriously when you have a typo on the word conference.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:57 am to
No school already in a power conference is ever going to be ok with any kind of promotion/demotion system. Delete this stupid fricking thread.

ETA I just wasted my 20,000th post on this, I fricking hate you OP
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 9:59 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18156 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:58 am to
Not sure that is too big a leap from the momentum for 4 x super conferences of ~16 teams to cut FBS to ~64 teams. Essentially creating another tier of football that falls between FCS (1AA) and FBS (1A). It would be a 1AA.5.

All of which I'm very much in favor of having.

I'd like to see those conferences have 4 x 4 team divisions. And, each team will play 2 x teams from every other Div. Ensures a team plays a home and away game rotating through the entire conference every 4 years.

It creates a 9 game conference schedule. And, best two Div Champs play for conference title.

Then, I'm okay with expanding the playoffs to 8 teams. 4 x conference Champs guaranteed and 4 x wild card slots for best teams overall based on a BCS style ranking model.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:03 am to
get over it.

the typo is staying...
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:04 am to
haha.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16448 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:06 am to
quote:

they play a schedule and the best team at the end of the year, via a championship game, gets upgraded to SEC-Heavy" and play a schedule with the likes of Alabama/Florida/etc


So they move up to play with the big boys the year after their big year? What if it was senior laden team, and they're in rebuilding mode when they move up to the big boy schedule the following year?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59435 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Example: maintain the SEC as it is now. but let other regional schools form to develop an "SEC-lite". this can be made up the following: southern MIss, Houston, UCF, WKU, etc. etc. they play a schedule and the best team at the end of the year, via a championship game, gets upgraded to SEC-Heavy" and play a schedule with the likes of Alabama/Florida/etc.


So if Southern Miss wins the "lite" title, next year they would be playing a full SEC schedulue against Bama, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, State, Ole Miss, & A&M?
Posted by MNW
Starkville, MS
Member since Mar 2015
1830 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:44 am to
Saying that the premier league relegation format allows parity and a path to championships for smaller clubs is laughable at best. I realize Leicester was a surprise winner last year, but since the premier league was created only 6 teams have won championships with a single team winning well over half of them.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 11:22 am to
I don't think this is a viable system given the great disparity, generally speaking, between the present P5 and G5 teams. Money equates to better facilities, recruiting and coaching. The P5 teams simply have too many resources.

I would be in favor of P5 teams playing only other P5 teams and having a 16-team playoff, and a similar structure for the G5 teams.
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