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re: MSU will give all National Guard members free tuition

Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
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I could get you in if you still are avoiding the MS13 peeps.


Bro I'd sign up for the Space Force even if my life wasn't in danger
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:13 pm to
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That's what annoys me about Guardsmen and why I call them loud mouths. I just can't relate to it.

They seem to be the ones with the UCP graphics on their truck windows, wearing their grunt style t-shirts, running their mouths on social media, and loudly asking for discounts. It triggers the frick out of me.


It annoys the shite out me also.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:15 pm to


..and to be fair it annoys me when AD folks do this too, and they definitely do it.

There's a good, all services subreddit for it: /r/justbootthings

LINK /
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 9:16 pm
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Was stuck in that dreaded ARFORGEN cycle for five years at Riley. You left out the fencing. What's that? You just redeployed and want to PCS?...oh it looks like your unit is already on the patch chart again and you've been fenced


I get it totally. Had PCS orders to Hood after I got back from my first deployment. Unit was deploying in a little under 9 months. It was better to reenlist and stay put where you were while both OEF and OIF were full blown.

I went crying to my Battalion SGM and he didnt let me down. Called branch and got me out of it. Most folks will never understand how few US combat arms maneuver brigades there really are now
That OP tempo was insane from 03 to around 09.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18199 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:19 pm to
This is really cool.

But, USM, and Jackson St and Ole Miss will be following shortly.

MSU simply got first right to the Memorandum of Understanding for some a variety of reasons, mostly political. Great thing the state of MS is doing for their Guardsmen.

It is a very similar program to those in place in Alabama and Tennessee.

Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:20 pm to
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Had PCS orders to Hood


Good move on your part, you would've gotten fricked even worse down there. Hood was awful about that First Team! Nobody PCS's bullshite. They had a CG delay several brigades' worth of Officers' PME after a deployment to retain them for the next one. It fricked everything up across the Army.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Ok, one of my best friends is a career Armor officer in the SCNG, also not a bad state for it.

Please don't take everything I'm saying too much to heart. Much of what I'm saying is banter and based on the absolute worst examples of guardsmen I've seen, because that's who I notice and who sticks out.



We have outstanding Infantry, Armor, ADA, and FA in the state. Everyone one of those units has deployed at least 2 or 3 times since 2003. As far as your comments about the Guard....its all good man I understand what you are saying and the things that annoy the shite out of you, annoys the shite out of me and I'm in the Guard.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:28 pm to
My buddy is a cav officer in the FLNG. He went through some weird version of OCS and is currently on a 9 month deployment to Korea with 3ID after spending 9 months in Djbouti in 2016.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:29 pm to
Your buddy is gay
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:30 pm to
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Haven't they been through enough?


I think it’s great that MSU is doing this but dammit have an upvote
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:31 pm to
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Good move on your part, you would've gotten fricked even worse down there. Hood was awful about that First Team! Nobody PCS's bullshite


I have heard that before. Once you go Hood there is no coming back....

I think all those BCTs were like that back then. I was in a SBCT at Lewis during my deployments. I enjoyed it but we were an above ground unit my second deployment and we got a tour of all the hot spots where "guard" units couldn't properly handle thier AOR.

That 101st DUSTWUN search was painfull in 07.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:31 pm to
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My buddy is a cav officer in the FLNG. He went through some weird version of OCS and is currently on a 9 month deployment to Korea with 3ID after spending 9 months in Djbouti in 2016.




Sounds like he got fricked
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18199 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:33 pm to
OPTEMPO is only going to raise as Compo II and III units will be moving to a 3 to 4 yr deployment cycle.

Demand on the Guard and Reserve are raising significantly. Further, readiness and meeting deployability standards will apply equally across all components. There will me a huge exodus over the next 12-18 months of active, guard and reserve soldiers that do not meet physical and medical reqs.

I've only been active duty and strictly in light and airborne infantry divisions, so I had my own set of biases on the guard and reserve Soldiers. However, I had the opportunity to work closely with them for about 18 mos and it changed my perspective to a large degree. They are proficient as they can be for the trng opportunities they have, for the most part. Plus, their leadership has an incredible problem set managing a civilian job and all leader responsibilities that go well beyond one weekend a month. Now, with the pending increase in deployments and readiness standards, it further stresses their civilian professional progression. Absolutely a problem I am glad to have avoided.

So, programs like free education are critical for recruitment and retention.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:34 pm to
Probably deployment hunting on purpose.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Probably deployment hunting on purpose.


Isn't everything on the Korean Peninsula 2ID? Hell, the division headquarters is there.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Sounds like he got fricked

Pretty sure he volunteered for it. He spent 6 years going to FSU and has some boring job in the admissions office there.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:39 pm to
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Probably deployment hunting on purpose.



I've known several enlisted and officers like that. Not a bad way to open up opportunities that sometimes wouldn't be there in their own units.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11545 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Pretty sure he volunteered for it. He spent 6 years going to FSU and has some boring job in the admissions office there.


Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Isn't everything on the Korean Peninsula 2ID? Hell, the division headquarters is there.


Used to be, now they're rotating units in and out to improve readiness.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:42 pm to
He's at some place called Camp Hovey and wears the 3ID patch on his cammies.
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