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Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:23 am to stronghouse
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Everyone keeps talking about Miss State corners. But what about the defensive line, because that's what you need to defeat Alabama. You need a talented and deep defensive line.
Wrong, you need a big defensive line and talented linebackers. Teams have dominated your O-Line in pass protection, you have given up 14 sacks so don't sit there and act like your offensive line is the determining factor. You need a good set of corners to slow the passing game, and a big D-Line assisted by a good LB core to slow the run. You can't approach Bama like most teams hoping to pressure the QB and force turnovers, you hold their offensive gains to mediocrity instead of trying to dismantle it. If you blitz McCarron will burn you almost every time.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:28 am to 14&Counting
quote:I'm game.
I am going to love bumping all of these grinding threads on Sunday
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:31 am to skirpnasty
Yeah, interesting hearing all these State fans pontificating on what it takes to beat Bama. I mean, how the hell would they know? 
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:32 am to skirpnasty
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Wrong, you need a big defensive line and talented linebackers. Teams have dominated your O-Line in pass protection, you have given up 14 sacks so don't sit there and act like your offensive line is the determining factor. You need a good set of corners to slow the passing game, and a big D-Line assisted by a good LB core to slow the run. You can't approach Bama like most teams hoping to pressure the QB and force turnovers, you hold their offensive gains to mediocrity instead of trying to dismantle it. If you blitz McCarron will burn you almost every time.
Teams have not dominated our offensive line in pass protection. If they had then we would have a loss already. We've had a struggle here and there pass protecting, but not all of it was the O line.
Ok. So history against Alabama has proven that you do not need depth in your defensive line to defeat Alabama.
So does Miss St have more than two good corners or any depth to play Alabama for 4 quarters. Because the last time I checked you guys got burned by Troy great offense, because you we were playing your back ups.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:35 am to bona fide
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(Posted on 1/5/12 at 10:47 a.m.) I believe in Jordan Jefferson. Game of his life on Monday night. He's Lready won two championships in this building. He is going to shine
What is wrong with this?
He did have the game of his life, granted it was the worst game, and he was shining with all that bling-bling he wore to the game.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:35 am to GTHTSUN
MSU is untested. Saying Bama has nothing to win and everything to lose is ridiculous. 1 loss dramatically decreases the chance to reach the goal of the BCSNC. I like MSU and all but if both teams play to their ability, it will be a convincing Bama win. I seriously doubt Bama is overlooking MSU with all the chatter but in my opinion the only chance the Bulldogs have to win is if Bama implodes. Not just has a turnover or 2 or plays wrecklessly or something. They would have to lay an egg. Bama is simply more balanced with better talent and depth. They haven't overlooked lesser teams.
Roll Tide
Bama 31
Dawgs 6
Roll Tide
Bama 31
Dawgs 6
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:36 am to GTHTSUN
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What makes you think this? Have you actually watched a State game this year or are you just talking out your arse? Alabama is not as dominating as they were last year and State is a totally different team on offense than they were last year. Simply writing this off as a Gump win before its even played is retarded. Sure, State hasn't played anyone that has challenged them all season but neither has Bama. This will be a much closer game than everyone is expecting and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if my Dawgs grind this one out.
Troy State, Tennessee and Auburn disagree.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:36 am to MovingThePile
quote:Who has Bama been tested by this year?
MSU is untested.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:38 am to TigerPox
We're both untested, but we have better athletes and coaches. I like our chances...a lot actually.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:48 am to TigerPox
True - no top ten type match-ups but they have dominated every game. Our only common opponent...
Bama 44 - UT 13
MSU 41 - UT 31
a 3 touchdown difference.
That 6 point win At Troy is convincing though.
By the way...
Alabama's Strength of Schedule is ranked 26th. MSU ... wait for it ...
119th
Like I said, the only way MSU actually upsets Alabama is if the team just lays an egg. I don't see it but that's why we play.
Bama 44 - UT 13
MSU 41 - UT 31
a 3 touchdown difference.
That 6 point win At Troy is convincing though.
By the way...
Alabama's Strength of Schedule is ranked 26th. MSU ... wait for it ...
119th
Like I said, the only way MSU actually upsets Alabama is if the team just lays an egg. I don't see it but that's why we play.
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:50 am to GTHTSUN
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Alabama is not as dominating as they were last year
Are you sure about that?
2011/2012 comparison (better numbers in bold):
Scoring O: 35/41
Total O: 430/440
Pass O: 215/220
Rush O: 214/219
Red Zone O: 2011 (88% scoring%, 55% TD%) / 2012 (97% scoring%, 74% TD%)
Scoring D: 8/8
Total D: 184/196
Pass D: 111/137
Rush D: 72/59
Red Zone D: 2011 (59% scoring, 35% TD%) / 2012 (58% scoring%, 42% TD%)
TO Margin: +.62 per game/+2 per game
Point differential: 27/33
So far all of the offensive stats favor 2012 and the defensive stats are about evenly split between 2011 and 2012. Turnover margin is a lot better this year. Point differential better in 2012.
Obviously, the 2012 numbers can change and it's more likely they drop a little than get better. However, to state that Alabama is "not as dominating" like it's a matter of fact is presuming a lot where there isn't really any evidence to back it up. In fact the opposite may be true.
If MSU is going to win it's because MSU has gotten a lot better, not because Alabama isn't as good.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:50 am to Tiger Ryno
Im not sure I've ever heard of a 24 pt dog being a strong contender to go undefeated, esp in the SEC.
Also OP, could you tell which stocks to invest my life savings in? You have it all figured out.
Also OP, could you tell which stocks to invest my life savings in? You have it all figured out.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:52 am to Bob Ag
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could you tell which stocks to invest my life savings in?
Ball bearings. It's all ball bearings these days.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:54 am to stronghouse
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So does Miss St have more than two good corners or any depth to play Alabama for 4 quarters. Because the last time I checked you guys got burned by Troy great offense, because you we were playing your back ups.
We do in fact, and don't confuse second stringers with 3rd and 4th. A lot of the corners that stepped up and made big plays against UT weren't our starters. Also corners don't have to be subbed as much as linemen but we will have the advantage of doing that anyway because you are never going to be in dime at all against Bama, my point wasn't that you don't need a deep line because you absolutely do. I would argue that our line is as deep as any right now, we literally have 3 deep at both tackle spots that can play. Boyd doesn't spent a lot of time off the field but the opposite DT rotates on and off a ton between 3 different guys. I still think the LB position is the most imperative when playing Bama but I'm not a DC so take that FWIW.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:02 am to thatdude1985
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quote: What makes you think this? Have you actually watched a State game this year or are you just talking out your arse? Alabama is not as dominating as they were last year and State is a totally different team on offense than they were last year. Simply writing this off as a Gump win before its even played is retarded. Sure, State hasn't played anyone that has challenged them all season but neither has Bama. This will be a much closer game than everyone is expecting and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if my Dawgs grind this one out. Troy State, Tennessee and Auburn disagree.
Apparently you haven't watched us play then. Those games were not as close as the scores would indicate. I hope the Gump players are sleeping on us like the Gump fans and the rest of the country are.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:06 am to skirpnasty
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We do in fact, and don't confuse second stringers with 3rd and 4th. A lot of the corners that stepped up and made big plays against UT weren't our starters. Also corners don't have to be subbed as much as linemen but we will have the advantage of doing that anyway because you are never going to be in dime at all against Bama, my point wasn't that you don't need a deep line because you absolutely do. I would argue that our line is as deep as any right now, we literally have 3 deep at both tackle spots that can play. Boyd doesn't spent a lot of time off the field but the opposite DT rotates on and off a ton between 3 different guys. I still think the LB position is the most imperative when playing Bama but I'm not a DC so take that FWIW.
So you guys have the defensive line talent and depth to stop Alabama run and you have the corners to stop the pass. Yet you gave up over 200 yards rushing to UT at home in efforts to sell out against the pass. I'm just saying if you have what it takes to do both vs Alabama then why couldn't it be done vs UT.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:08 am to Tiger Ryno
Neither MSU or Bama has played anyone this year yet. The difference is that Bama has the best coach in college football and loads more talent than MSU. This is why Bama will win, but I would love to see the pups pull the upset in T-Town.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:19 am to stronghouse
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So you guys have the defensive line talent and depth to stop Alabama run and you have the corners to stop the pass. Yet you gave up over 200 yards rushing to UT at home in efforts to sell out against the pass. I'm just saying if you have what it takes to do both vs Alabama then why couldn't it be done vs UT.
Against UT you are constantly in dime or sometimes nickel, we played a lot more nickel because we have the versatility to do so with one of our OLB's. You're in nickel and sending the strong side linebacker a lot on the blitz Pr dropping him in cover which leaves you vulnerable to the run. It isn't hard to just run a traditional nickel and not send the LB but there was no reason to, it was evident that they weren't going to beat us with their RB alone. You can lock down the run and risk giving up the big play to Hunter or Patterson or keep allowing the 5-6 yard gash on your blitz calls. In the 4th we moved back out of an aggressive pass defense and it was effective, you saw Bama run an almost identical defensive scheme against them as compared to ours in the 4th.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:23 am to Tiger Ryno
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huge confidence high riding into Baton Rouge and honestly, LSU may not score more than 6 points against that D.
The more I read your post the more retarded I feel.
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