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re: Most Selective Schools in the South (SEC Schools ranked)
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:04 pm to SunHog
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:04 pm to SunHog
I don't see why any of this is even bothered to be ranked or discussed. The thing that matters is whether or not that piece of paper can get your arse a job that will more than pay for your student loans etc. A 200000 piece of paper from the finest institution in the land doesn't mean shite if you can't get a job. That is what needs to be ranked. Of all the schools what percent of graduates are employed (and I don't mean by daddies hookups) within 6 months of graduation? What are they earning vs what they paid for school? What is the difference between the cost of the education? Anyone who makes a decision regarding their life based on who is their favorite football team is dumb arse I don't case what they score on the ACT.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:05 pm to jeffturnright
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I don't see why any of this is even bothered to be ranked or discussed. The thing that matters is whether or not that piece of paper can get your arse a job that will more than pay for your student loans etc. A 200000 piece of paper from the finest institution in the land doesn't mean shite if you can't get a job. That is what needs to be ranked. Of all the schools what percent of graduates are employed (and I don't mean by daddies hookups) within 6 months of graduation? What are they earning vs what they paid for school? What is the difference between the cost of the education? Anyone who makes a decision regarding their life based on who is their favorite football team is dumb arse I don't case what they score on the ACT.
Education bubble at it's finest.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:38 pm to SunHog
Yeah, those are the first real student-oriented rez buildings downtown. 2 buildings with wrapped parking garages, 5 stories, 1200 residents combined, 1 block off Dickson. It will take things up a notch for sure.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:39 pm to SunHog
With all the variety of methods colleges use in admissions to meet diversity goals, selectivity really isn't what it used to be.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:25 pm to cornhat
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What's with all the ACT talk? Do most SEC schools prefer the ACT over SAT? The schools I applied (including UF) to cared more about the SAT than the ACT.
Depends on the school. At least in the SEC West, the ACT is more widely used.
If you want a comparison by SAT, check the link:
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LSU has the highest 25th/75th percentile scores in the West, followed by Auburn and Arkansas.
For ACT comparison see:
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Arkansas and LSU have the highest profiles in the West on the ACT.
In the east, obviously Vandy, followed by Georgia and Florida, which makes sense given their populations.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:01 pm to wmr
quote:link?
Yeah, those are the first real student-oriented rez buildings downtown. 2 buildings with wrapped parking garages, 5 stories, 1200 residents combined, 1 block off Dickson. It will take things up a notch for sure.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:03 pm to Govt Tide
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Most Selective Schools
Damn Ole Miss???
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:17 pm to Hog on the Hill
I discussed it a bit here:
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AFAIK there is no website for the projects yet. The first one, 555 Maple, just passed the Planning Commission this week.
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AFAIK there is no website for the projects yet. The first one, 555 Maple, just passed the Planning Commission this week.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 1:59 am to Slippery Slope
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I know that since my freshman year, the new MSU presidents made a big effort to increase enrollment.
That's actually not a good thing if you're talking about colleges being selective.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 2:42 am to BillF
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LSU requirements are higher than Bama's and Arkansas' for sure.
i dont believe that. and im not trolling, but ive never met anyone that has been rejected by lsu or either miss. school.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 3:25 am to Govt Tide
Umm, State being not only more selective than us, but over 50 places more selective than us is complete and utter bullshite. We're basically the same in that regard due to MS legislature making us both lowering the standard. State being that much higher than Ole Miss is completely laughable.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:24 am to 1LoudTideFan
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i dont believe that. and im not trolling, but ive never met anyone that has been rejected by lsu or either miss. school.
LSU's entrance requirements are higher than Alabama's, meaning the minimum acceptable ACT score, and required high school prep courses are more stringent, which is a different question from selectivity. LSU's admission profile for ACT and SAT scores of matriculated students is also higher than Alabama's. See the links in the post above.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 7:29 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:27 am to OMLandshark
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Umm, State being not only more selective than us, but over 50 places more selective than us is complete and utter bullshite. We're basically the same in that regard due to MS legislature making us both lowering the standard. State being that much higher than Ole Miss is completely laughable.
Not really. The fact is that State's entering classes have a higher ACT profile than Ole Miss's. See the above link.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:44 am to tigerinridgeland
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LSU has the highest 25th/75th percentile scores in the West, followed by Auburn and Arkansas.
For ACT comparison see:
This was on the second page of thread as well. It's been a long time since I had anything to do with an act test, but the composite is the combination of both the math and English, correct? I don't see how auburns.composite 75th can be lower than both the math and the English. Seems like it should be in the middle.
But as I said before this rankings criteria skew the results for being a selective school. Several of these schools get applications just because of who the school is and those students had no business applying in the first place. So their acceptance rate numbers look inflated.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:03 am to NYCAuburn
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But as I said before this rankings criteria skew the results for being a selective school. Several of these schools get applications just because of who the school is and those students had no business applying in the first place. So their acceptance rate numbers look inflated.
Selectivity viewed in isolation is a pretty meaningless stat, as you point out, without knowing what the applicant pool looks like in terms of size and quality.
In reality, most of the debate about whose school is ranked higher in academics is pretty silly outside of the truly elite schools, of which only Vandy qualifies in the SEC. What really matters is how a student performs while in school. I would rather hire a grad from Ole Miss with 4.0 than a Georgia grad with a 2.3 in the same major, all other things being equal. You would find very little difference, if any, among the best students at any SEC school, regardless of which school those students went to.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:00 am to tigerinridgeland
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Damn Ole Miss???
We have the exact same acceptance standards. Its just more dumb OOS students come here so we have lower ACT/GPA scores
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:09 am to Whereisomaha
We have the exact same acceptance standards. Its just more dumb OOS students come here so we have lower ACT/GPA scores
Because the taxpayers of Mississippi subsidize those out of state students with lower tuition than they pay in their home states and they can get in because of relatively low admissions requirements.
Because the taxpayers of Mississippi subsidize those out of state students with lower tuition than they pay in their home states and they can get in because of relatively low admissions requirements.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:13 am to Gnar Cat21
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well I know you the ACT minimum is higher for AU than UofA
Can I has a crayon?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:04 am to wmr
quote:Looks good. I prefer vertical growth vs sprawl e.g. Wedington/Mt Comfort
I discussed it a bit here:
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AFAIK there is no website for the projects yet. The first one, 555 Maple, just passed the Planning Commission this week.
edit: btw have you noticed that Google Maps shows high resolution aerial imagery of Fayetteville during BB&BBQ? I just saw it. You gotta zoom in close
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am
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