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re: Most Selective Schools in the South (SEC Schools ranked)

Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by jeffturnright
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:04 pm to
I don't see why any of this is even bothered to be ranked or discussed. The thing that matters is whether or not that piece of paper can get your arse a job that will more than pay for your student loans etc. A 200000 piece of paper from the finest institution in the land doesn't mean shite if you can't get a job. That is what needs to be ranked. Of all the schools what percent of graduates are employed (and I don't mean by daddies hookups) within 6 months of graduation? What are they earning vs what they paid for school? What is the difference between the cost of the education? Anyone who makes a decision regarding their life based on who is their favorite football team is dumb arse I don't case what they score on the ACT.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:05 pm to
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I don't see why any of this is even bothered to be ranked or discussed. The thing that matters is whether or not that piece of paper can get your arse a job that will more than pay for your student loans etc. A 200000 piece of paper from the finest institution in the land doesn't mean shite if you can't get a job. That is what needs to be ranked. Of all the schools what percent of graduates are employed (and I don't mean by daddies hookups) within 6 months of graduation? What are they earning vs what they paid for school? What is the difference between the cost of the education? Anyone who makes a decision regarding their life based on who is their favorite football team is dumb arse I don't case what they score on the ACT.


Education bubble at it's finest.

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:38 pm to
Yeah, those are the first real student-oriented rez buildings downtown. 2 buildings with wrapped parking garages, 5 stories, 1200 residents combined, 1 block off Dickson. It will take things up a notch for sure.

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:39 pm to
With all the variety of methods colleges use in admissions to meet diversity goals, selectivity really isn't what it used to be.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7661 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:25 pm to
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What's with all the ACT talk? Do most SEC schools prefer the ACT over SAT? The schools I applied (including UF) to cared more about the SAT than the ACT.


Depends on the school. At least in the SEC West, the ACT is more widely used.

If you want a comparison by SAT, check the link:
LINK

LSU has the highest 25th/75th percentile scores in the West, followed by Auburn and Arkansas.

For ACT comparison see:
LINK

Arkansas and LSU have the highest profiles in the West on the ACT.

In the east, obviously Vandy, followed by Georgia and Florida, which makes sense given their populations.


Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:01 pm to
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Yeah, those are the first real student-oriented rez buildings downtown. 2 buildings with wrapped parking garages, 5 stories, 1200 residents combined, 1 block off Dickson. It will take things up a notch for sure.

link?
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22079 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:03 pm to
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Most Selective Schools


Damn Ole Miss???
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:17 pm to
I discussed it a bit here:

LINK

AFAIK there is no website for the projects yet. The first one, 555 Maple, just passed the Planning Commission this week.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5765 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 1:59 am to
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I know that since my freshman year, the new MSU presidents made a big effort to increase enrollment.


That's actually not a good thing if you're talking about colleges being selective.
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3662 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 2:42 am to
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LSU requirements are higher than Bama's and Arkansas' for sure.


i dont believe that. and im not trolling, but ive never met anyone that has been rejected by lsu or either miss. school.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 3:25 am to
Umm, State being not only more selective than us, but over 50 places more selective than us is complete and utter bullshite. We're basically the same in that regard due to MS legislature making us both lowering the standard. State being that much higher than Ole Miss is completely laughable.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:41 am to
Eat it cow fans
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7661 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:24 am to
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i dont believe that. and im not trolling, but ive never met anyone that has been rejected by lsu or either miss. school.


LSU's entrance requirements are higher than Alabama's, meaning the minimum acceptable ACT score, and required high school prep courses are more stringent, which is a different question from selectivity. LSU's admission profile for ACT and SAT scores of matriculated students is also higher than Alabama's. See the links in the post above.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 7:29 am
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7661 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Umm, State being not only more selective than us, but over 50 places more selective than us is complete and utter bullshite. We're basically the same in that regard due to MS legislature making us both lowering the standard. State being that much higher than Ole Miss is completely laughable.


Not really. The fact is that State's entering classes have a higher ACT profile than Ole Miss's. See the above link.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:44 am to
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LSU has the highest 25th/75th percentile scores in the West, followed by Auburn and Arkansas.

For ACT comparison see:


This was on the second page of thread as well. It's been a long time since I had anything to do with an act test, but the composite is the combination of both the math and English, correct? I don't see how auburns.composite 75th can be lower than both the math and the English. Seems like it should be in the middle.

But as I said before this rankings criteria skew the results for being a selective school. Several of these schools get applications just because of who the school is and those students had no business applying in the first place. So their acceptance rate numbers look inflated.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7661 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 8:03 am to
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But as I said before this rankings criteria skew the results for being a selective school. Several of these schools get applications just because of who the school is and those students had no business applying in the first place. So their acceptance rate numbers look inflated.


Selectivity viewed in isolation is a pretty meaningless stat, as you point out, without knowing what the applicant pool looks like in terms of size and quality.

In reality, most of the debate about whose school is ranked higher in academics is pretty silly outside of the truly elite schools, of which only Vandy qualifies in the SEC. What really matters is how a student performs while in school. I would rather hire a grad from Ole Miss with 4.0 than a Georgia grad with a 2.3 in the same major, all other things being equal. You would find very little difference, if any, among the best students at any SEC school, regardless of which school those students went to.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:00 am to
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Damn Ole Miss???

We have the exact same acceptance standards. Its just more dumb OOS students come here so we have lower ACT/GPA scores
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7661 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:09 am to
We have the exact same acceptance standards. Its just more dumb OOS students come here so we have lower ACT/GPA scores

Because the taxpayers of Mississippi subsidize those out of state students with lower tuition than they pay in their home states and they can get in because of relatively low admissions requirements.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20712 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 9:13 am to
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well I know you the ACT minimum is higher for AU than UofA


Can I has a crayon?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:04 am to
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I discussed it a bit here:

LINK

AFAIK there is no website for the projects yet. The first one, 555 Maple, just passed the Planning Commission this week.
Looks good. I prefer vertical growth vs sprawl e.g. Wedington/Mt Comfort

edit: btw have you noticed that Google Maps shows high resolution aerial imagery of Fayetteville during BB&BBQ? I just saw it. You gotta zoom in close
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am
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