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Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:10 pm to
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A&M's biggest resource advantage over SC is 300,000 living former students and 51,000 current. I don't know if that makes a difference in the future, but it has (here's that dirty word again) potential.


Luckily where SC lacks Texas' total population it makes up some ground in only being divided by 2. Non-Cock / Tiger SCers aren't taught to dislike the bigger schools (which seems to happen in other states). We have no D1 competition in the state outside of the big 2. This means that most people, regardless of what small school they attend if any, root for and buy tickets and merchandise in favor of SC and Clempson.. usually more so in favor of SC.

Every once in a while a report will come out listing the top 10 most valuable football programs. All are powerhouses except SC will sometime sneak into the top 10 and I credit this statewide endorsement of the bigger schools, specifically SC. Its funny cause the fans of the powerhouses can't believe SC is on there and think its some kind of mistake.

I don't think our alumni are that high but the main campus plus the 8 or so regional campuses across the state push SC current students to around 50,000.

eta: Our site list 215,000 living alumni from the Columbia campus.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
585 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:11 pm to
That's a very big12-like mindset. Saying that one teams success is diminished because some other program is down is elementary smack at best due to the fact that college football is cyclical. Are you sure you aren't a Texas fan?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:15 pm to
Texas and OU ruled the big12, with Nebraska in the early years.

The SEC has seen Florida, Bama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, and Arkansas at the top of each division, aTm is going to need twice the amount of teams to be down to see a "potential met" type year...
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
585 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:17 pm to
Well then I guess our only hope is for all the SEC powerhouses to Petrino themselves into an Arky-like train wreck.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:19 pm to
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Well then I guess our only hope is for all the SEC powerhouses to Petrino themselves into an Arky-like train wreck.



We have just as many SEC wins as aTm so far this season, against much stronger competition.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:20 pm to
Here is a hypothetical...

Lets say Sumlin is the real deal and starts winning fairly big (9-11 wins) within the next few seasons. This will increase our recruiting from top15 to probably top10 borderline top5.
Within that timespan, we will probably have Kyle Field completely renovated and one of the nicest facilities in CFB.
Also, Sumlin would probably take a giant pay bump and become one of the higher paid coaches in the country.

After that, do you think A&M is correctly placed at #5? If you think Auburn and UT are ahead still, then what specifically is reasoning?

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:22 pm to
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Here is a hypothetical...

Lets say Sumlin is the real deal and starts winning fairly big (9-11 wins) within the next few seasons. This will increase our recruiting from top15 to probably top10 borderline top5.
Within that timespan, we will probably have Kyle Field completely renovated and one of the nicest facilities in CFB.
Also, Sumlin would probably take a giant pay bump and become one of the higher paid coaches in the country.

After that, do you think A&M is correctly placed at #5? If you think Auburn and UT are ahead still, then what specifically is reasoning?


Let's look at the facts, such as Sumlin's failures when the inherited, developed QB goes down.

5 wins.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Here is a hypothetical...

Lets say Sumlin is the real deal and starts winning fairly big (9-11 wins) within the next few seasons. This will increase our recruiting from top15 to probably top10 borderline top5.
Within that timespan, we will probably have Kyle Field completely renovated and one of the nicest facilities in CFB.
Also, Sumlin would probably take a giant pay bump and become one of the higher paid coaches in the country.

After that, do you think A&M is correctly placed at #5? If you think Auburn and UT are ahead still, then what specifically is reasoning?


Here's the problem. You assume that you will be the only one improving the stadium. News Flash: Everyone is all of the time in the SEC. It is not a once every 35 years deal like it has been at A&M. This also says nothing about the 3-4 SEC programs already doing all of these things with respect to revenue and recruiting. At least 6, if not 8-10, of SEC programs can fork out major cash for top coaches. It's also strange to think that this will be easier in the SEC than it was in the Big 12.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted by townestoldme2
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2012
499 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:34 pm to
Arky has the most monies. They got 2 stadiums!
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:46 pm to
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No, you are delusional to think aTm is not realizing the potential for the program.

Really? We had a worse record than Baylor last year. TCU has been a much better program the last few years. During the Leach era, Tech was a pretty good program while A&M was performing shitty on the field.

What level of success SHOULD A&M have with it's resources? 6-6 in the big 12 is realizing A&M's potential?
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:53 pm to
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What level of success SHOULD A&M have with it's resources? 6-6 in the big 12 is realizing A&M's potential?



Has there been a period since Pearl Harbor where A&M realized this potential?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Has there been a period since Pearl Harbor where A&M realized this potential?



SWC post- Arkansas.

Big 12 when Texas, OU, and Nebraska was down.

They did buy Eric Dickerson a sweet Gold T/A to drive to school at SMU.
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
585 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:58 pm to
Keep clinging to the "because the other programs were down" mantra. You sound just like a tech fan....which is funny because tech and Arkansas have similar academics and problems with the AD.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43594 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:00 pm to
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Keep clinging to the "because the other programs were down" mantra. You sound just like a tech fan....which is funny because tech and Arkansas have similar academics and problems with the AD.


Oh shite, Academic smack, better watch out.

We dealin with a badass up in her'.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:03 pm to
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Has there been a period since Pearl Harbor where A&M realized this potential?

Come on, Pigimus.

What potential are you talking about?
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
585 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:03 pm to
How is that academic smack? I just said the two schools were similar to each other, not that A&M has better academics (which would be smack).

Are you the designated SECr goalie for Arkansas?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:03 pm to
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Most attractive SEC Jobs

Masseuse for the traveling cheerleader squad...well, unless it's A&M.
Posted by PepaSpray
Adamantium Membership
Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:24 pm to
I'll agree that A&M should become that attractive of a job should they prove to be able to compete over the next decade.

They're on the right track in recruiting so far this year, but recruiting rankings can be deceiving if you can't get them to campus, stay on campus, or develop them like AU.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:34 pm to
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What potential are you talking about?



I'm talking about the potential reference to potential that I made in reference to the long discussion about A&M's potential. Long story short, there are some potential problems with A&M's potential for this hypothetical potential.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm talking about the potential reference to potential that I made in reference to the long discussion about A&M's potential. Long story short, there are some potential problems with A&M's potential for this hypothetical potential.


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