Started By
Message
re: Most attractive SEC Jobs
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:24 am to dallasCONSTag
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:24 am to dallasCONSTag
This thread would have exploded had you stated:
quote:
Tennessee - (Fulmer made this job look better than it is. Great facilities, but heavily dependent on out of state recruiting.)
0
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:26 am to schlow mo
quote:
All you TAMU people just dont understand, it is the big 6, dropoff, everyone else. Of course certain non big 6 teams will have years where they pop up and win big (see Arkansas), but they will never consistently compete with the big 6 year in and year out, it's just not in the cards. Though Spurrier has USCe competing year in and year out with the big boys. I am interested to see what happens to their program once he retires, if they go back in the doldrums or if they can sustain the momentum.
No, it is you who does not understand. Texas is busting with talent and A&M just has to keep its share at home. For example, there were 3 QB's taken in the Top 10 of the NFL draft last year and all 3 were from Texas (Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill). History is wonderful but it doesn't mean much to the future. The question on this thread is not "which program is better now" or "which program has been better historically", the question is what is the most attractive job?
The money issue is also a non starter. A&M has very deep pockets when it cares to use them. In 1982 A&M went and bought Jackie Sherrill away from Pitt by giving him the first million dollar coaching contract in college football. In '02 we went and got Fran from Bama. So how could the #8 or 9 school hire away the coach from the #1 school when the #1 school wanted to keep him at the time? Also, how has A&M become so much less attractive of a place to be now when all indications are otherwise in terms of why you would take a coaching job?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:30 am to aggressor
quote:
aggressor
Then why has aTm sucked for the duration of most SECRant members lives?
You played in weaker conferences and only have 3 conference championships to show for it, two of those were after Arkansas left the SWC and the other was when Texas and 0U was down.
Texas being down means more to Aggy success than anything else, Texas is rarely down long, but the best decade for Aggy in long term memory just happens to coincide with Texas being down.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:30 am to 10888bge
quote:
The right coach makes the school not the other way around.
I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. Some programs definitely have an advantage over others, but they still require a quality coach to become elite.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:32 am to dallasCONSTag
quote:
13-Miss St
You really believe Vandy is a better job ???
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:36 am to aggressor
quote:
Top 10 of the NFL draft last year and all 3 were from Texas (Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill
You had one of them and still sucked arse
quote:
the question is what is the most attractive job
Your's isn't, pick a reason: You have a weird arse culture, you don't have a great team historically, UT destroys you in every aspect, among many other reasons.
quote:
The money issue is also a non starter.
Arky has boatloads of money, still hasn't won them an SEC championship in over 20 years now.
quote:
So how could the #8 or 9 school hire away the coach from the #1 school when the #1 school wanted to keep him at the time?
Gump will inform you
quote:
Also, how has A&M become so much less attractive of a place to be now when all indications are otherwise in terms of why you would take a coaching job?
It never was that attractive a job to begin with
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:45 am to schlow mo
most attractive job means easiest to win.
the easiest way to win is to get the best players.
it's easier to get elite players at A&M than a lot of schools with a better tradition of winning.
the easiest way to win is to get the best players.
it's easier to get elite players at A&M than a lot of schools with a better tradition of winning.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:51 am to townestoldme2
quote:
it's easier to get elite players at A&M than a lot of schools with a better tradition of winning.
Then why hasn't this happened since pre WWII?
It is easy to say, but 60+ years of data suggests the opposite of your data to be true...
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:57 am to DaleDenton
that data is fact.
we get better players than you do.
this will not change.
just need a coach... I'm not making excuses for a&m being irrelevant. we haven't lived up to our potential. This isn't a new theory about a&m
we get better players than you do.
this will not change.
just need a coach... I'm not making excuses for a&m being irrelevant. we haven't lived up to our potential. This isn't a new theory about a&m
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:01 am to townestoldme2
quote:
we get better players than you do.
this will not change.
Since when?
On field results show otherwise...
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:03 am to DaleDenton
Since all the players that have a&m and arky offers go to a&m. Petrino's gone.
Go tape your nose.
Go tape your nose.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:04 am to townestoldme2
It's not in the best interest of AssRape U, Baylor, TechTard, blOwU, or Okie Lite that A&M lives up to potential. They will not compete if we start getting a decided edge. They (especially the fricking longhorns) will do ANYTHING (murder) to keep A&M from getting any momentum, because evidence (history) suggests that it will be infinitely more difficult for their programs. They ALL would rather have OU or AssRape dominate just to keep A&M from getting any traction.
You're thinking I am paranoid. Just watch. Take a look around with that in mind.
You're thinking I am paranoid. Just watch. Take a look around with that in mind.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:06 am to townestoldme2
41-24-3
47-19
24-17
42-38
Better players, lulz.
47-19
24-17
42-38
Better players, lulz.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:07 am to KaiserSoze99
what's assrape u?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:07 am to KaiserSoze99
quote:
It's not in the best interest of AssRape U, Baylor, TechTard, blOwU, or Okie Lite that A&M lives up to potential. They will not compete if we start getting a decided edge. They (especially the fricking longhorns) will do ANYTHING (murder) to keep A&M from getting any momentum, because evidence (history) suggests that it will be infinitely more difficult for their programs. They ALL would rather have OU or AssRape dominate just to keep A&M from getting any traction.
You're thinking I am paranoid. Just watch. Take a look around with that in mind.
Yeah, man, this is what it is, the "MAN" is keeping aTm down out of fear.
Lulz at you.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:08 am to townestoldme2
SMH....... A&M is only attractive to coaches willing to deal with our psyco booster system filled with stubborn crusties that want to see the triple option. We our not Bama and how long did they take to repair their program from the best coach ever, Fran? I would say A&M could be successful only if certain stuff happens.
1. Sumlin can continue to recruit.
2. Sumlin makes a bowl game every year he coaches. Or the fan base will turn on him and his offense. (Because like stated previously our old crusties want to see the triple option).
3. Just to back up number 2 Sherman went from being a commencement speaker to being fire in 6 months.
4. The Kyle Field project actually turns out better than I believe it's going to.
5. We need to go to a bowl game and win this year.
1. Sumlin can continue to recruit.
2. Sumlin makes a bowl game every year he coaches. Or the fan base will turn on him and his offense. (Because like stated previously our old crusties want to see the triple option).
3. Just to back up number 2 Sherman went from being a commencement speaker to being fire in 6 months.
4. The Kyle Field project actually turns out better than I believe it's going to.
5. We need to go to a bowl game and win this year.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:09 am to DaleDenton
Better players does not equal success. Better players WITHOUT DENNIS MOTHERfrickING LITTLE DEBBIE FRANOCHIO makes a world of difference.
If Arky was still in the SWC, you could list them as one of those schools with an interest in stopping all A&M momentum. It doesn't matter now.
If Arky was still in the SWC, you could list them as one of those schools with an interest in stopping all A&M momentum. It doesn't matter now.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:11 am to DaleDenton
quote:
Yeah, man, this is what it is, the "MAN" is keeping aTm down out of fear.
Lulz at you.
You don't have to believe me. I don't have any evidence of anything (well some, but...). I am just saying, look around. What has happened when A&M got momentum in the past? What has been the response? What was the response to A&M leaving the big 12 v. Nebraska, Colorado, and hell, even Missouri? Why would those shits act differently toward A&M? I'm just saying.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:12 am to KaiserSoze99
quote:
Better players does not equal success. Better players WITHOUT DENNIS MOTHERfrickING LITTLE DEBBIE FRANOCHIO makes a world of difference.
If Arky was still in the SWC, you could list them as one of those schools with an interest in stopping all A&M momentum. It doesn't matter now.
We never played you while you had Franchione, nice try, we have beaten you many times no matter who the coach including your glory run in the 80s while Texas was down.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:15 am to DaleDenton
quote:
it's easier to get elite players at A&M than a lot of schools with a better tradition of winning.
Then why hasn't this happened since pre WWII?
It is easy to say, but 60+ years of data suggests the opposite of your data to be true...
From 1984-2002 A&M didn't have a losing season. In that time we won 7 Conference Championships (8 if you count the vacated '94 team that was undefeated). From 84-95 we were 10-1 against Texas.
We made the worst possible hire in '02 we could make. We went out and bought the best coach available because a .500 season wasn't good enough for us even though RC Slocum was the winningest coach in SWC history (I still agree with the decision to move on, we just went the wrong way). Ironically there was a coach at Bowling Green at the time that wanted the job but we weren't interested. He went on to Utah and after coming to A&M for a game he was so impressed he started a tradition there called "The Utah Man". Even then we stuck with Fran and let that guy go to Florida where he did pretty well if I recall.
A&M traditions may be "weird" but believe it or not a lot of recruits like the idea of a place where 40k people show up just to practice yelling at midnight for the game. They like a student section of 31k strong that stands and yells for them the entire game. A&M is unique and that is its greatest strength. Ever been to a Texas game at DKR? Here is what their star Safety thinks about it:
quote:
"No offense to our fans, but [DKR] is not loud,” Vaccaro told The Daily Texan.
Vaccaro listed his favorite places to play as Texas A&M’s Kyle Field and the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.
“Kyle Field is loud, man,” he said. “Kyle Field gets wild.”
A bad coaching hire leaves a mark and it can take time to recover. The real disaster for us was at the same time we hit rock bottom Texas won a NC and suddenly acted as though they had always owned the state and the '80s and '90s never happened. Folks act as though Texas dominated the Big 12 as well in football but they have a total of 3 Big 12 Titles.
In the end, what's past is prologue though. The future is what matters. A&M's future is blindingly bright with the SEC move.
Page 10 of 15
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News