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re: Mizzou fans, how do y'all feel about going against Auburn's offense?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:19 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:19 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
True but a team that went 3-9 last year has no business looking ahead or overlooking anyone. Lay it all on the line Saturday and you've got a month to heal up.
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:21 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
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I doubt they'll spend the whole week reading their newspaper clippings, but even 1-2 meh days of practice is possible, maybe even likely.
To be fair, the read-option is pretty cut and dry when you know what you're doing. It's not like Malzahn is drawing up intricate pass plays. They're going to line up and try to dominate in the trenches like they have all year. Much less of a chance for a let-down in this scenario.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:22 pm to Alphatiger721
I just really don't see us being held under 30.
Our O matches up real well with your D. We have great balance.
Before you say it, yes we were the last two games but we went ground heavy against Ole Miss and we didn't need the points. We dominated them and played keep away.
aTm was a different story. Our O played about a C- game and Franklin missed two wide open TD passes. Hopefully we were just a bit tight.
If we play that way on offense again, we will lose, but I doubt it.
Our O matches up real well with your D. We have great balance.
Before you say it, yes we were the last two games but we went ground heavy against Ole Miss and we didn't need the points. We dominated them and played keep away.
aTm was a different story. Our O played about a C- game and Franklin missed two wide open TD passes. Hopefully we were just a bit tight.
If we play that way on offense again, we will lose, but I doubt it.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:25 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:Yep aTm was one of our shakier games. Not only did Franklin miss but we overshot the carrier on D and missed arm tackles for the first quarter. The team seemed way to amped up. Hope we got that out of our system
aTm was a different story. Our O played about a C- game and Franklin missed two wide open TD passes. Hopefully we were just a bit tight.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:25 pm to MIZ_COU
I've said in previous threads that the best way to attack Mizzou's D is in a phone booth. Mizzou's D-line relies on quickness and the ability to make plays in the backfield. I think Auburn's offense is the perfect antidote to the troubles Mizzou's D causes. Option running game will slow them down and cause hesitation, and an option-read PA passing game will cause their secondary to hesitate coming up and supporting. We actually saw A&M have really good success simply running the zone-read option run right up the middle against Mizzou. Then, in seemingly typical Sumlin style, they gave up on it. Auburn's offense is that on steroids.
Now, Auburn has to execute. But so far they've shown no problems doing that against anybody. And Malzahn is maybe the best playcaller in the country. I just think he'll have answers to what Mizzou does differently, much like Spurrier did.
If Mizzou does beat Auburn, I think they have as much if not more right to claim they deserve a NC bid as anybody if tOSU loses.
Now, Auburn has to execute. But so far they've shown no problems doing that against anybody. And Malzahn is maybe the best playcaller in the country. I just think he'll have answers to what Mizzou does differently, much like Spurrier did.
If Mizzou does beat Auburn, I think they have as much if not more right to claim they deserve a NC bid as anybody if tOSU loses.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:25 pm to JesusQuintana
We also have not allowed 30 points in a single game this year. If y'all get there you will be the first.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:28 pm to Mohican
Disagree with this.
Again, we just didn't play well against aTm. That's not who we have been all year. We have been incredibly stout up the middle. We have a great run stopper at the Mike.
If that game was all anyone has seen of us it's really not representative of what we've been all year. Our passing game was not as crisp and we were missing a ton of tackles on D and we just don't do that.
I think our guys were really amped up in front of the home crowd. I expect to play much better Saturday and be the team we've been all year.
Again, we just didn't play well against aTm. That's not who we have been all year. We have been incredibly stout up the middle. We have a great run stopper at the Mike.
If that game was all anyone has seen of us it's really not representative of what we've been all year. Our passing game was not as crisp and we were missing a ton of tackles on D and we just don't do that.
I think our guys were really amped up in front of the home crowd. I expect to play much better Saturday and be the team we've been all year.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:31 pm to Mohican
I keep saying this but it's truly strength against strength. Malzahn is a great play caller. Josh Henson is going to exploit whatever your D is giving up. Who bends, who breaks? If it comes down to turnovers it could be mizzou. If it comes down to the last play of the game could be Auburn. Is Aburn going to be flat. I wouldn't be suprised. Is mizzou going to be tight or to wired. They haven't been in Atlanta before. Nobody should be confident about this game.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:24 am to AUsteriskPride
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It's not like Malzahn is drawing up intricate pass plays.
You see Marshall's tying TD pass?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:31 am to Ash'sProstheticHand
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I know it's the SEC CG, but I feel like there's a decent opportunity for a letdown performance by Auburn. 2 miracle wins in a row + beating a #1-ranked 11-0 rival. I doubt they'll spend the whole week reading their newspaper clippings, but even 1-2 meh days of practice is possible, maybe even likely.
It is always possible, but reports coming out are that the players are business like and focused. Not much messing around and practices have been very good. The team has some good leadership on it and Malzahn has been great at telling them to celebrate the win for the evening, but tomorrow is time to get back to work. The players have done well in buying into that mentality.
It should be a good game though.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:43 am to Mohican
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I've said in previous threads that the best way to attack Mizzou's D is in a phone booth. Mizzou's D-line relies on quickness and the ability to make plays in the backfield. I think Auburn's offense is the perfect antidote to the troubles Mizzou's D causes. Option running game will slow them down and cause hesitation, and an option-read PA passing game will cause their secondary to hesitate coming up and supporting.
That's my hunch too. Quickness and playmakers on defense can be mitigated by causing hesitation and misreads that's innate within a read option offense. I'm not worried about moving the ball on Mizzou, really. I'm worried about Mizzou moving on us. Defensive pressure on the line will be key.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:47 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I'd bet the guys are sky high for this. Most of them were on the receiving end of 3-9 and a bad IB loss. I can't imagine how great they feel right now.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:47 am to LandofDixie
I'm in agreement
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:24 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I'll preface this post by saying that most of my Auburn knowledge is based on what I observed from the 2010 model. In the 2 games I've seen so far this year, the offense is largely the same but with some differences to adjust for the changes in personnel.
I think a shootout favors us just by the nature of Auburn's offense. I actually read extensively about Malzahn's offense a few years ago between exams when i had taken a shitload of adderall. It's really a beautiful system because of how god damned simple it is.
I mean, look at this:
This hand sweep play was Cam's bread and butter and I'm sure Marshall does the same thing. In this particular play, it would be on Michael Sam to blow it up, which is pretty good for us, actually. It is absolutely imperative for Sam and Ealy to generate a good push on the snap so our LBs can seal the edge. I suspect Auburn fans will be hearing the names Golden and Wilson very often on Saturday.
Auburn runs 3 variants of the option: The zone read, the speed option, and the power. I do not think the power option will be successful. Runs inside the tackles and up the middle simply have not produced results against the Tigers. See: Mike Davis (yes, we lost the game, but frustrated Davis nearly to tears). I am most concerned with the speed option variant. Our defensive line is VERY aggressive, which is why Spurrier burned our arse with screen passes so badly in the second half. Frankly, I'm worried about getting torched on something like this:
Mason could certainly beat us badly heading outside on something like this. These plays are not difficult to understand. They are easy to see and scout. But when players hit their assignments, they are hard as hell to stop.
I think a shootout favors us just by the nature of Auburn's offense. I actually read extensively about Malzahn's offense a few years ago between exams when i had taken a shitload of adderall. It's really a beautiful system because of how god damned simple it is.
I mean, look at this:
This hand sweep play was Cam's bread and butter and I'm sure Marshall does the same thing. In this particular play, it would be on Michael Sam to blow it up, which is pretty good for us, actually. It is absolutely imperative for Sam and Ealy to generate a good push on the snap so our LBs can seal the edge. I suspect Auburn fans will be hearing the names Golden and Wilson very often on Saturday.
Auburn runs 3 variants of the option: The zone read, the speed option, and the power. I do not think the power option will be successful. Runs inside the tackles and up the middle simply have not produced results against the Tigers. See: Mike Davis (yes, we lost the game, but frustrated Davis nearly to tears). I am most concerned with the speed option variant. Our defensive line is VERY aggressive, which is why Spurrier burned our arse with screen passes so badly in the second half. Frankly, I'm worried about getting torched on something like this:
Mason could certainly beat us badly heading outside on something like this. These plays are not difficult to understand. They are easy to see and scout. But when players hit their assignments, they are hard as hell to stop.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:20 am to NaturalLight00
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NaturalLight00
Nice post. I think Malzahn would be wise to avoid plays like the first one. With that aggressive D-line I would stick with my bread and butter, the inside zone read.
The fact that we are trying to figure out how to attack Mizzou's defense successfully speaks volumes to how good they are.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:24 am to Mohican
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NaturalLight00
Isn't that Auburn's entire playbook???
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:27 am to Wtodd
Who was the CB you put on Evans...shut his arse down?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:30 am to parkjas2001
EJ Gaines
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:32 am to Wtodd
Does he take the #1 or just a side of the field?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:34 am to parkjas2001
Rarely takes the #1. Evans was sort of an exception but EJ didn't spy Evans did play him on both sides a lot.
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