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re: Miss State LB Leo Lewis received $21,000 before National Signing Day from 2 SEC schools

Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29196 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:41 pm to
neal mccready, godfrey, and now pat forde all going at it on twitter. this is hilarious.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Correct. But Leo's situation is a bit unique and gives you an idea about his character.

NFL GM's put a good bit of stock into their potential employee's character.(with the exception of the Browns)

He'll still play in the league(pending him reaching his potential) and get paid. But it's doubtful that he'll be a program changing linebacker and NFL management will pick someone else if they have equal talent.

Look at how far Tunsil fell in the draft. It costed him millions.


If he was a senior coming into the draft next spring, I could see it raising character concerns and dropping him some.

He isn't a senior, he's a RS sophomore so the only way he comes out in the 2018 draft is if he has a massive 2017. If that happens, character issues will be overlooked. If he stays until 2019 or 2020 and keeps his nose clean, then all this will be forgotten.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17879 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

NFL GM's put a good bit of stock into their potential employee's character


Joe Mixon just got drafted.

Next
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64805 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
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That a poor high school kid would take money from a booster?


If the only thing that LL did was just take money from a booster, then I would agree with you. You're ignoring a long list of details, though.

quote:

Eric Dickerson


Not the same situation as Leo Lewis. See above.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64805 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
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neal mccready, godfrey, and now pat forde all going at it on twitter. this is hilarious.



brb
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64805 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Joe Mixon just got drafted.



I keep forgetting that posters on this site don't actually read what other people post.


I guess that's my bad.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:45 pm to
Lewis: "Coach, the NCAA wants to talk to me about my recruitment. How should I handle the conversation?"
Mullen: "Just tell the truth."



Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65298 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

If the only thing that LL did was just take money from a booster, then I would agree with you. You're ignoring a long list of details, though.

such as?
quote:

Not the same situation as Leo Lewis. See above.


how do you figure? took money/gifts from one school, went to another, and the school he ended up at was hammered by the NCAA. Am I missing something except for the fact Lewis came clean and admitted to accepting money and Dickerson didn't?

Also, can you help me with something:
quote:

none of you seem to want to address these confidential transcripts that Ole Miss journalists seem to have and why/how they have them. I'd seriously love an honest answer to that or at least an attempt at an explanation.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Lewis: "Coach, the NCAA wants to talk to me about my recruitment. How should I handle the conversation?"
Mullen: "Just tell the truth."



Aside from all this, our compliance department runs a pretty annoyingly tight rig. With the whole Redmond incident they self reported all of it and self imposed way more punishment than he deserved. They reported the Cam shite, etc... 99% of the time it pisses us off because they could at least play it a little shady and probably keep a little dirt. I've bitched so many times about Brackey Brett (head of our compliance) bending over for the NCAA and self reporting everything under the sun.

This isn't one of those times, when the NCAA starts interviewing, just don't lie to them. Work with them, take your lumps when they come and keep them small.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised at all if we paid LL and the NCAA brushed it under the rug in light of a completely honest testimony.

If you're an OM fan, and you believe all of these leaks/transcripts are accurate, you have to choose. Did Leo lie or did State pay him? You can't have the cake and eat it too. If he was lying, why in the actual hell would he admit to taking money from State?
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:00 pm to
This article really only benefits one party and that is Rebel Rags. I think
iRebel Rags' attorney should be able to question Sheridan and potentially
add him personally and the NCAA to his lawsuit, no ? MSU might get a slap
on the wrist as a face saving measure but I doubt it.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:02 pm to
frick immunity. Leo Lewis should never be able to play college football again!
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:04 pm to
Yea, we are to believe that Leo went to Dan Mullen and asked him how to handle the interview and Dan's answer was "tell them that MSU paid you too!"....I mean according to the article that's what he did, so obviously Dan told him to tell the truth.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24939 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:07 pm to
Ole Miss runs a prostitution ring then has the gall to try and get Mullen in trouble for lending Lewis 11k for his kids hospital bills.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

This article really only benefits one party and that is Rebel Rags. I think iRebel Rags' attorney should be able to question Sheridan and potentially add him personally and the NCAA to his lawsuit, no ? MSU might get a slap on the wrist as a face saving measure but I doubt it.



Not sure how it would benefit RR. What the NCAA finds credible, or doesn't, has no bearing on what a judge does.

That being said, the RR case won't make it to a court room. I don't see how it's possible to prove that his testimony was directly responsible for monetary loss due to defamation. And even if it did make it to court, they certainly won't recoup what it's going to cost them to drag out 3 separate lawsuits. That's going to run a pretty steep tab for a small business owner.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Ole Miss runs a prostitution ring then has the gall to try and get Mullen in trouble for lending Lewis 11k for his kids hospital bills.


It was actually the donation Leo needed to get his next level of Scientology audits. Mullen wanted him to level up his Theton levels in the offseason.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12095 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:28 pm to
Jesus, Leo just torching his whole state to the ground huh...
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:37 pm to
If RR's attorney can show that Leo Lewis' testimony was inaccurate concerning RR and that the NCAA did not do due diligence in verifying those claims, then it opens up a can of worms. If I'm RR attorney I want the details of the immunity agreement, all texts and
phone calls made between the investigators, LL, and MSU . I also want to know what
due diligence was done in investigating the claims concerning RR. My guess is the
investigators didn't do any due diligence when it came to RR but wanted to add more
weight to what they already had. Overreach.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17879 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Leo Lewis' testimony was inaccurate concerning RR


And that's going to prove conspiracy?

A testimony not authorized or taking place in a court ?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:43 pm to
Lol. The NCAA isn't sweeping the fact that you guys paid $ under the rug because you we're honest. Lol you're fricked like OM.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:49 pm to
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My guess is the investigators didn't do any due diligence when it came to RR


Simply bothering to read the NCAA rebuttal to OM would keep you from making such bad guesses.
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