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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:47 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:47 pm
I got into a heated discussion this morning with a co-worker because I said Les was the luckiest coach in the history of football.This guy starts pulling stats out of his arse from past championship teams and says Les is no more lucky than any other coach,of course I disagreed.Was I wrong?What say you rant.
This post was edited on 9/28/09 at 9:02 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:48 pm to
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stats



........?
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:48 pm to
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Mile's


Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:49 pm to
The more talented team seems to always get "lucky"... give him credit for that, I guess.

To answer your question, yes... he does seem to get more than his fair share of luck.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Crimsoncutie98
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

The more talented team seems to always get "lucky"... give him credit for that, I guess.

To answer your question, yes... he does seem to get more than his fair share of luck.


I agree.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:52 pm to
Let's just say it should suffice to SAY that everyone says it for a reason. he's pissed off and using "stats" to support his theory. stats are developed over a long period of time.

ask yourself... how many times did LSU nearly lose, but win, under him just like last week?

how many times has he made a crazy call and GOTTEN what he wants?

why is he known as the river boat gambler or the mad hatter?
Posted by Jhag
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 8:58 pm to
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What say you rant.


I wished I could get him to buy my next lottery ticket.


Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:00 pm to
i'm surprised at the lack of solid responses here. i expected this would get a lot of hits.
Posted by FootballHog
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:01 pm to
Bad coach.

Team's talent pulls out the wins for him.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/28/09 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Tiger In Dawg Country
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:02 pm to
Someone remind me what his record is again thru 4.25 seasons! :beatdeadhorse:
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28607 posts
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:05 pm to
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Someone remind me what his record is again thru 4.25 seasons


Mike Dubose won an SEC championship

if you think that bad coaches haven't inherited a good program/gotten lucky more than they should... then youz is cwazy.

Miles isn't ONLY lucky... he's not accidentally getting paid 3-4 million dollars. but he's not what y'all need.
This post was edited on 9/28/09 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:08 pm to
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he's not what y'all need.


What is it that we need?

Please, do tell.
Posted by Jhag
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:09 pm to
Nick Saban
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28607 posts
Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:10 pm to
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Jhag


LOLOLOL

only an Auburn fan has the disposition to pull that one off well. roflmfao
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:14 pm to
Yes, you are wrong. If you think, for instance that LSU was lucky in the 2007 Florida game, you weren't paying attention. Miles made rational, intelligent choices to take the risk on 4th down because going on 4th down with short yardage is the right choice based on the statistical data. Was he "lucky" because he chose to go for the lead instead of playing for OT against Florida late in the game. I think most would think that Florida would have had the edge in OT. LSU needed to win in regulation. Miles knew it. He consistently made the right call in that game, go for the win instead of the FG to tie, use up as much time as possible to deny Florida the time to drive down the field for a TD. It was not luck, but good coaching, good strategy, well-executed by his players.

In his 4 bowl games, LSU has dominated the opponents, hardly luck.

Auburn 2007. Again, Miles made a reasonable choice. The field kicker had not been terribly consistent up to that point in the game. There was sufficient time to go for a TD pass in the endzone and still leave time for a FG if the pass was incomplete. Flynn nearly took too much time, but the call was a good call, not luck.

So exactly what was "dumb luck" that makes Miles lucky? It looks to me as if Miles has made some good choices, that sometimes look like luck.

Perhaps you don't remember that in the Arkansas game in 2007, Doucet lined up wrong (too far off the line), costing LSU a touchdown that would have changed the outcome of the game- LSU would have won without overtime. (He nearly made a similar mistake in the Auburn game, but it was waived off, if I recall correctly.) Was that lucky for Arkansas and bad luck for LSU? Nearly cost LSU the chance for the NC. I suppose you could say that the Pitt upset of WVa was luck, but I guess it balanced out the bad luck in TD in the Arkansas game that was recalled. That TD would have ended any debate about the 2007 BCS championship.

Most good teams have some close calls and a bit of luck. Miles is certainly not perfect, but much of what has passed for luck, really isn't.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:14 pm to


maybe y'all need this guy. les miles' long lost ... wait, that's kurt russell.
This post was edited on 9/28/09 at 9:16 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/28/09 at 9:16 pm to
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FightinTiga


Does tigerinridgeland remind you of your friend?
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