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re: Miles named worst coach in college FB

Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by tigerbait16
Member since Apr 2011
729 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:11 pm to
that website is a fricking joke
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4785 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:11 pm to
He may be lucky but at the end of the season when we finish with 11 wins who gives a shite.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4785 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:15 pm to
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And HOW do you know the players he's getting are BETTER than the one's that were there?? Because they had another * by there name


Exactly stars don't mean shite IMO it's how the coach develops the player to be better than the stars they came in with, which miles does a pretty good job at doing that. Lets see how chizik does with out depending on ol cam now
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:17 pm to
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And HOW do you know the players he's getting are BETTER than the one's that were there?? Because they had another * by there name?

Well yes, in part. But also because I know that Tubs mailed it in regarding recruiting the last couple of years. He was duck-hunting in Arkansas while Saban was loading up on 4 and 5 star talent. Stars don't mean everything, but as you well know they are a pretty good indicator of the player's talent level. Tuberville's teams weren't known for overwhelming talent, but especially in 2008 the recruiting suffered and we were beset by depth issues the last two years in large part because of it. Chizik recruits on a different level than Tuberville attempted to, and our program is much more healthy as a result.
This post was edited on 6/29/11 at 5:17 pm
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10901 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:22 pm to
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I don't have a problem with LSU not being in their top 10 if it didn't include Texas A&M at #10. A&M got absolutely skull dragged in their own backyard by LSU, but they are still ranked ahead of LSU. Did A&M just get an infusion of talent and LSU lost all its talent? No. Something just ain't right.


EVERY other ranking includes LSU in the top 4 but the bloggers who think there coach is the worst in college football don't even have them in their Top 10. Forget A&M. These guys clearly have an agenda.

How can a guy with a 62-17 (79%) record in what is unquestionably the toughest conference in America be the worst coach in all of college football? Only Urban Meyer (65-15 - 81%)has a better winning percentage in the SEC in recent years and he got to toil the SEC East that was much weaker than the West for most of his tenure there. His winning percentage is higher than Saban's at LSU and Bama combined.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46991 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:24 pm to
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Stars don't mean everything, but as you well know they are a pretty good indicator of the player's talent level.


Very familiar with that here....yes

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Tuberville's teams weren't known for overwhelming talent, but especially in 2008 the recruiting suffered and were were beset by depth issues the last two years in large part because of it


It will be proven...one day....that he was a more consistant winner than Chiz....especially if Malzahn leaves (which will happen sooner than later).

All of this is moot if AU gets investigated by the NCAA too....which isn't a longshot by any stretch.

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Chizik recruits on a different level than Tuberville attempted to, and our program is much more healthy as a result.


Healthy.......we shall see
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:25 pm to
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But my god we really could have used a good bounce in the Auburn game (instead of a 3 and out with the game in question)...

I agree with your premise that luck eventually evens out, but I could argue that LSU DID get a few lucky bounces in the Auburn game. The punter was nailing it 50+ yards pinning us inside the 5 every time. Auburn dominated that game and frankly it shouldn't have been that close. The whole game I was thinking, "Les strikes again."
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46991 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:27 pm to
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The punter was nailing it 50+ yards pinning us inside the 5 every time.




You are a piece of work......thank goodness the kid developed himself...or it would have been 30 yard punts and we would have lost by 35!



You need to get ready for the arse-whipping in BR this year.......
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:29 pm to
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Go back and watch last season and tell me I'm lying when I say you got very lucky in the UNC game, when 13 players of their NFL laden roster were suspended before the game.


So because UNC had team full of frick ups it makes Miles lucky? By the way....we would've won anyways. Miles put in mostly freshman and backups in the 2nd half. That wouldn't have happened had the score been close.

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Or when they dropped a pass on the final 2 plays in the end zone


defense *clap* *clap* defense

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Or again in the UT game, when they had 13 players on the field on a play in which they stopped you on the goal line, allowing LSU another chance despite horrible clock management by Miles.


that was Crowton trying to make substitutions with no timeouts.

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Or in the UF game when Miles called a fake FG (when a FG would have tied the game) with 35 seconds left in which the ball was lateraled and bounced perfectly into your guy's hands


that was lucky. but you can't blame a bad toss on Miles. If the toss was perfect thats probably a touchdown....game over.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:32 pm to
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An example would be last year when LSU was 7-0 and fans knew they should be 4-3


Yea, I'm going to need a link for this horseshite.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37285 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:34 pm to
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I agree with your premise that luck eventually evens out, but I could argue that LSU DID get a few lucky bounces in the Auburn game. The punter was nailing it 50+ yards pinning us inside the 5 every time. Auburn dominated that game and frankly it shouldn't have been that close. The whole game I was thinking, "Les strikes again."



it is all a matter of perspective

I kept thinking - goddamit if we had some semblance of a passing game to get our defense off the field we would win this fricking game


Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:37 pm to
Don't get me wrong, Jasper was a great punter(wasn't he the kicker too?). But to pin us so deep every time, forcing us to go 97+ yards, and keeping them in a game in which we so thoroughly dominated was just another case of the unusual nature of many of Miles' games. If they had won that game, I would have been convinced not that Miles made a deal with the devil but he was Satan himself and just made the rules as he pleased.
This post was edited on 6/29/11 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:38 pm to
I disagree with almost every word, phrase, sentence, and just about any other thing he put in that article.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:40 pm to
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But to pin us so deep every time, forcing us to go 97+ yards, and keeping them in a game in which we so thoroughly dominated was just another case of the unusual nature of many of Miles' games.


So because the punter was on fire that day is just another case of Miles' being lucky. Maybe Chizik was lucky that this was one of the few games our defense played like shite....or lucky that bama blew a 24 point halftime lead in their home stadium. Or maybe Tubby was lucky that they called a penalty on a freakin missed extra point allowing Auburn to rekick. The first, last, and only time i've ever seen that penalty called in 30 years of watching football.

I could keep going but i think you see my point...
This post was edited on 6/29/11 at 2:44 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46991 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:41 pm to
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and keeping them in a game in which we so thoroughly dominated


:if only we could have thrown the ball:

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unusual nature of many of Miles' games


Aren't AU/LSU games pretty unpredictable to begin with?? This was happening before Miles.

Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4785 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:41 pm to
So the fact that our punter had a good game is credit to miles luck?

Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:43 pm to
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So because the punter was on fire that day is just another case of Miles' being lucky. Maybe Chizik was lucky that this was one of the few games our defense played like shite....or lucky that bama blew a 24 point halftime lead in their home stadium.

Possibly.. It's all about perception, I suppose. But that is my and many others' perception of Miles' career as HC at LSU.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4785 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:45 pm to
If miles luck had any effect on players talent then Jefferson would have thrown 25 touchdowns last season
Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2098 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:45 pm to
Agreed! I always dont agree with Miles decisions but the bottom line is he wins games. Also how do you put a coach that won a NT within 4 years on this list.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20362 posts
Posted on 6/29/11 at 2:46 pm to
just keep asking yourselves "How does that dumbass keep beating us?!?"
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