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re: Miles And Richt Sit On The SEC’s Hottest Seats
Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:04 pm to SNAKE
Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:04 pm to SNAKE
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I agree that it's Saban ! For the reasons you refered to as well as the following.
1) Saban has always pushed the limits of the spirit of rules regarding recruiting . The new limits on recruiting will not help.
2) Alabama has historically run a cheating program. The NCAA has said to Alabama.......
it will risk the death penalty or something really bad if this happens again.
Can Bamma or Saban live in this straight jacket ?
So, how long have you been retarded?
Nick Saban is on the exact opposite of a hot seat. His recruiting has been top tier, and Alabama has been steadily improving under his watch.
This post was edited on 6/24/09 at 4:06 pm
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Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:08 pm to rangers911
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etrino will get a pass this season due to his schedule but if the team doesn't perform well and be competative his seat will be hot in 2010. It is not hot but it is warming.
nope, it is ice cold right now, even after this season results
Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:14 pm to GoHoGsGo06
this guy has a working brain, and this is all he could come up with 
don't see this
don't see this
Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:37 pm to GoBigOrange86
You can't be serious with this comment. I pray that the majority of LSU fans ( and specifically the decision makers) don't have the sense of entitlement your "8-4" comment suggests.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 4:59 pm to Ross
LOL. Miles goes top 5 3 out of 4 years and he is on the hot seat? Only people outside of Baton Rouge thinks he is on the hot seat. 
Let Satan keep losing the big games like the SEC championship and losing to non BCS teams in bowl games and see how quickly he is run out of town.
Miles is 4-0 in bowl games by an average score of 39-11 at LSU. I guess people think Paul should be on the hot seat if he loses tonight.
Let Satan keep losing the big games like the SEC championship and losing to non BCS teams in bowl games and see how quickly he is run out of town.
Miles is 4-0 in bowl games by an average score of 39-11 at LSU. I guess people think Paul should be on the hot seat if he loses tonight.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 5:01 pm to Alahunter
Miles is definitely on a hot seat. With Tubby out there wanting the LSU job, don't be surprised to see a switch made if the wheels come off, and Miles has a losing season.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 5:12 pm to crowbar832001
quote:You're right. Miles is a much better coach than Saban. Congratulations.
Miles is 4-0 in bowl games by an average score of 39-11 at LSU. I guess people think Paul should be on the hot seat if he loses tonight.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 5:17 pm to rangers911
quote:nah, who the hell is arky going to get that is going to be any better?
Petrino will get a pass this season due to his schedule but if the team doesn't perform well and be competative his seat will be hot in 2010. It is not hot but it is warming.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 6:02 pm to crowbar832001
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Let Satan keep losing the big games like the SEC championship and losing to non BCS teams in bowl games and see how quickly he is run out of town.
You just can't be serious. Given the situation he inherited, I'd come to the conclusion that making the SEC Championship Game and a BCS Bowl is a great achievement in year 2. His recruiting ensures that he will have the talent to have consistent top 10 teams soon.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 7:51 pm to Ross
id say its gotta be urban meyer... if this guy keeps winning championships hes gotta get canned
Posted on 6/24/09 at 7:57 pm to BamaInHsv
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You're right. Miles is a much better coach than Saban. Congratulations.
he might be. u can't say that yet
Posted on 6/24/09 at 8:42 pm to Ross
Saban will not be on the hot seat at Bama. He works too hard and is too smart to cross the line into cheating. Does he push the rules to the limit? Sure he does...so does Meyer, Tressel, Richt, etc.
Bama fans will certainly be disappointed in an occasional 8-5 or 7-6 under Saban. But there's no way in hell we'll be pissed off so much that we want him outta there.
There will come a day that he'll leave Bama, no doubt. I hope it's many years down the line, but if he leaves Bama in the same shape that He left LSU, I'll thank him for all he did for us and wish him well.
And, if he stays at Bama for eight years or longer, I'm gonna laugh my arse off at all of you LSUers that have claimed that he would only stay for 2-5 years.
Bama fans will certainly be disappointed in an occasional 8-5 or 7-6 under Saban. But there's no way in hell we'll be pissed off so much that we want him outta there.
There will come a day that he'll leave Bama, no doubt. I hope it's many years down the line, but if he leaves Bama in the same shape that He left LSU, I'll thank him for all he did for us and wish him well.
And, if he stays at Bama for eight years or longer, I'm gonna laugh my arse off at all of you LSUers that have claimed that he would only stay for 2-5 years.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 8:55 pm to The Ramp
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You're right. Miles is a much better coach than Saban. Congratulations.
he might be. u can't say that yet
Sabans' NC at Lsu - 13-1 Played into it.
Miles' NC at Lsu - 12-2 Pittsburg played Lsu into it.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 9:52 pm to Alahunter
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Sabans' NC at Lsu - 13-1 Played into it.
Now, now. Didn't Saban have to have a little help from a team out west late in the night of the SEC title game?
Posted on 6/24/09 at 10:18 pm to GoBigOrange86
The Saban recruits argument would only be valid if Miles was not an elite recruiter. Miles has been recruiting as well as Saban did at LSU for the last 3 years. Miles had to coach those recruits to those successful seasons. No team wins anything worth mentioning in college football with raw talent alone.
The RP situation and DC decision had a lot to do with some of the problems last year.
Miles has been a very good coach for LSU and anyone who thinks he is more on the hot seat than any other big time coach is stupid. Any coach at a big time program that coaches a losing season is in for trouble.
Miles also has an incredibly tough schedule which puts the team at a disadvantage in the conference. I think they would have to be horrible this year for him to be in any consideration to be let go. There would also need to be a superstar coach to go after if they got rid of him. The LSU football team is extremely built to win in 2010. So they might waste that year with a coaching change.
We don't need to pull an Auburn by firing a proven coach for a unknown.
The RP situation and DC decision had a lot to do with some of the problems last year.
Miles has been a very good coach for LSU and anyone who thinks he is more on the hot seat than any other big time coach is stupid. Any coach at a big time program that coaches a losing season is in for trouble.
Miles also has an incredibly tough schedule which puts the team at a disadvantage in the conference. I think they would have to be horrible this year for him to be in any consideration to be let go. There would also need to be a superstar coach to go after if they got rid of him. The LSU football team is extremely built to win in 2010. So they might waste that year with a coaching change.
We don't need to pull an Auburn by firing a proven coach for a unknown.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 10:21 pm to lsutiger2486
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We don't need to pull an Auburn by firing a proven coach for a unknown.
You certainly shouldn't fire Miles at this juncture, but I'm not sure he's proven in the sense that Tuberville was. If LSU rebounds, and I think they probably will, then Miles will have proven that he can sustain success. If they continue to flounder or decline any further then LSU should seriously consider firing him. But I would say that situation will not become apparent for at least 2 seasons.
I still say Tuberville being fired was one of the dumbest things ever done in college football. LSU certainly shouldn't make the same mistake.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 11:12 pm to GoBigOrange86
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I'm not sure he's proven in the sense that Tuberville was.
3 top 5 finishes and a NC in 4 years doesn't prove he is a good coach. Any coach that has two below average seasons is going to be in trouble. He has definitely proved he is of the elite.
He has had to rebuild some areas of the team going into last year. The poor DC decision and RP situation did not help that process. So typically a huge program hopes to reload; however, things just didn't go our way. The season was not a complete loss. We didn't go to the SECCG or the BCS, but we ended the year with a huge win in a respectable bowl. We didn't end ranked, but the only thing that is helpful for if you aren't near the top is to salvage recruiting. We recruited one of the best if not the best classes in the country.
Our record last year was one game different than UF after they won the 2006 title. That really is not that big of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 6/24/09 at 11:35 pm to lsutiger2486
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Our record last year was one game different than UF after they won the 2006 title
In terms of wins, but if you break it down more, the 2007 Florida team was quite a bit better than the 2008 LSU team. Florida 2007 lost only one game by more than a touchdown; LSU 2008 was routed by Florida, Ole Miss, and Georgia. Florida 2007 was 5-3 in the SEC, and LSU 2008 was 3-5.
That's a much bigger difference. Part of LSU's problem was obviously going from Bo Pelini to Malleveto, and I don't think that should be discounted. But still, last year was a huge step down for a program with LSU's lofty expectations.
As for the 2007 season, a LOT of things had to fall LSU's way to get them into the title game. I mean alot. I remember telling an LSU friend of mine before the title game that if Pitt beat West Virginia and they beat us they would almost surely jump Virginia Tech and get into the game ahead of the likes of Kansas, Oklahoma, etc. He laughed because it seemed so improbable.
Obviously LSU deserved to be there, and I thought they were the best team in the country even after they lost to Arkansas and before they played us in the title game. But I still don't think that alone proves Miles is elite. He may be...I'm just not sure yet.
This post was edited on 6/24/09 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 6/24/09 at 11:44 pm to GoBigOrange86
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In terms of wins, but if you break it down more, the 2007 Florida team was quite a bit better than the 2008 LSU team. Florida 2007 lost only one game by more than a touchdown; LSU 2008 was routed by Florida, Ole Miss, and Georgia. Florida 2007 was 5-3 in the SEC, and LSU 2008 was 3-5.
I am only saying that it finally comes to wins and losses. No one will care how it happened in years to come. The only thing important that really mattered was in recruiting. It didn't matter.
If you don't win the NC, a bcs bowl, or the conference it really is not that big of a deal. A top 10 ranking is the only thing that matters as far as rankings go IMO. Going 9-4 and finishing around 15 does not mean much to me than our record last year. With our expectations I am wanting to have 10+ wins including a bowl win(unless a NC loss) or I don't call it highly successful. Anything less than that and around what we finished last year might as well be the same thing IMO. I would be a lot more upset if we were doing well in recruiting.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 10:38 am to DaphneTigah
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Saban will leave bama before Les Miles leaves LSU
The only way that would happen is if Bama's booster wont stay out of the way.
Saban will retire from Bama.
If Miles has another season like last years, he is toast.
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