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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.

Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:45 pm to
Gonna be much more of this upcoming.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:51 pm to
We already have head coaches becoming coordinators and position coaches.

Young guys like Lincoln Riley and Kirby Smart are signaling that they aren't going to coach as long as their predecessors because of the increased workload.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:01 am to
Riley is a joke, who gives a shite what he says
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:05 am to
When a top 15 coach in the game is saying that he's going to retire "early", it's an indication of where we are.
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:05 am to
The man poured his heart and soul into college ball his entire life.

It sounds like he played the new portal/NIL game a few years at a program with big money while nauseated and holding his nose from the stink. He put Miami on the college basketball map when no one else could, then couldn't stand the stench anymore at age 75.





Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:09 am to
His Final 4 team was solidly boosted by transfers that received NIL. At that time they had a billionaire booster spending massive amounts of dough. The year before, same story.

Seems hypocritical to me
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 12:14 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:15 am to
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His Final 4 team was solidly boosted by transfers that received NIL. At that time they had a billionaire booster spending massive amounts of dough.


Hypocritical or not, this is pretty much what you have to do to keep up with the Joneses. Dabo doesn't utilize the portal, and Clemson has definitely taken a step back since they were a top 5 team.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:27 am to
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Hypocritical or not, this is pretty much what you have to do to keep up with the Joneses.

Agreed.

I remember during the Auburn NCAAt game when they easily handled Auburn featuring Jabari and Walker Kessler an announcer said Miami only brought back 2 players from the previous year when they were the worst in their conference. It was basically an NIL overhaul.

Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:31 am to
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TLDR... if you're not an arse you'll be fine coaching today.


Agreed… in football Sark has a lot of player loyalty, as well as Kirby Smart… yes the players get paid, but they also are having fun and know that their coach has a lot of success developing players for the NFL.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:44 am to
I have zero sympathy for major college coaches banking millions of dollars who bitch about NIL and the portal as if all this shite is really about education, or like skills, or a leisurely extracurricular activity for serious students.

It is an absurd entertainment behemoth that the players are now able to benefit from just like the coaches.

If coaches can’t accept that, then go coach and teach history for $50,000 at the local high school. Try patiently teaching Timmy how to dribble and the importance of discipline while at the same time worrying how much Pep Boys is going to charge you to repair your vehicle that broke down that morning because you don’t have millions to throw at every problem.

College coaches want it to be about education when it suits their routine and then entertainment when it suits their bank account - but they can’t have it both ways anymore.

They’re going to have to learn how to handle and appease players who are a hell of a lot more important to the cash cow than they are.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:50 am to
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I have zero sympathy for major college coaches banking millions of dollars who bitch about NIL and the portal as if all this shite is really about education, or like skills, or a leisurely extracurricular activity for serious students.


I think the average fan is seriously misunderstanding what coaches are complaining about.

They don't care that the players are getting paid or that they can transfer, they're complaining because there is no type of rule structure at all to work off of. Literally anything goes and it's made their job very difficult.

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They’re going to have to learn how to handle and appease players who are a hell of a lot more important to the cash cow than they are.


Eh, a good coach is more valuable now more than ever. Players are coming and going like crazy.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30880 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:53 am to
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Agreed… in football Sark has a lot of player loyalty, as well as Kirby Smart… yes the players get paid, but they also are having fun and know that their coach has a lot of success developing players for the NFL.


I doubt Sark has the loyalty you think he does. Neither does Kirby.

Especially Sark though.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:56 am to
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Try patiently teaching Timmy how to dribble and the importance of discipline while at the same time worrying how much Pep Boys is going to charge you to repair your vehicle that broke down that morning because you don’t have millions to throw at every problem.


And now you want the players to make millions while college educated middle class folks are struggling to make ends meet in this economy? Weird.

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They’re going to have to learn how to handle and appease players who are a hell of a lot more important to the cash cow than they are.


Not even close. Players come and players go. The vast majority of your players could be replaced by some random G5 dudes and nobody would notice. I'm not sure if anybody knows what good college basketball looks like anymore with all of the one and dones and rosters taking longer and longer to gel. A tiny percentage of these guys play professionally, and several of them are doing it in places like Turkey and whatnot.

So many people in here are putting these guys on a pedestal like their skills cannot be replaced, especially on a 4-8 team
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:06 am to
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I doubt Sark has the loyalty you think he does. Neither does Kirby. Especially Sark though.


Arch has stayed at Texas, despite the hopes and dreams of opposing fanbases…
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30880 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:08 am to
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Arch has stayed at Texas, despite the hopes and dreams of opposing fanbases…


Yeah, that has nothing to do with Sark outside the influence in getting him there to start with.

Arch is not the typical player.

When you say things like loyalty, you are talking about people who stick with you in the tough times, not just the good times. But the majority of those players will bail at the first sign of greener grass.

This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 1:11 am
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:14 am to
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And now you want the players to make millions while college educated middle class folks are struggling to make ends meet in this economy? Weird.


Like it or not, big time college football is part of the entertainment industry… in one respect, these salaries are unfair, but in another, players are being paid because their efforts satisfy market demand.

Plus the players are putting their bodies and minds on the line every game, for you, the fan’s, entertainment. SCOTUS determined that it was fair to let college players profit also, in addition to the schools and television networks…

People will pay a lot for entertainment… an $80,000 bass boat is not required to catch a fish…
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 1:47 am
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:21 am to
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Yeah, that has nothing to do with Sark outside the influence in getting him there to start with.


I disagree. Arch is, of course, from a smart and successful football family. Sark was a college QB too, and a good one. Sark is known as a good QB developer. He creates exciting offenses which allow QBs with NFL intentions to shine and get noticed.

Arch could play anywhere. He’s staying at Texas, because he and his family like the way he is being coached, developed, and treated.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61545 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:28 am to
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I disagree. Arch is, of course, from a smart and successful football family. Sark was a college QB too, and a good one. Sark is known as a good QB developer. He creates exciting offenses which allow QBs with NFL intentions to shine and get noticed.

Arch could play anywhere. He’s staying at Texas, because he and his family like the way he is being coached, developed, and treated


Arch is one player.

You're delusional if you don't think players will jump ship en masse if your train starts coming a little off the rails. That's just the reality of modern college football.
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:35 am to
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You're delusional if you don't think players will jump ship en masse if your train starts coming a little off the rails. That's just the reality of modern college football.


How is that different from the private sector? If you don’t like your current job, you look for another.

SCOTUS effectively ended the long era of
college ballplayer indentured servitude. Perhaps you should take your complaints to them…
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61545 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:44 am to
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How is that different from the private sector? If you don’t like your current job, you look for another.

SCOTUS effectively ended the long era of
college ballplayer indentured servitude. Perhaps you should take your complaints to them…


I have no "complaints" about the current system, it's just the reality of modern college football.
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