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re: Mett, McCarron, Murray, JFF draft order
Posted on 11/27/13 at 6:56 am to Snakebucket
Posted on 11/27/13 at 6:56 am to Snakebucket
Agree that Mett goes first. Measurables are off the chart. He'll tear it at at the combines and "experts" like danielson are creaming all over him.
I know I'll get flamed for this but Mett has massive bust written all over him. Glacially slow with zero pocket presence. He locks on to the receiver he's going to throw to pre-snap and doesn't show the consistency to go elsewhere if that option isn't open. He also seems to have almost zero social or leadership skills. He was rarely seen on the sidelines interacting with his offensive teammates between series. (Admittedly, that's dependent on when the cameras choose to focus on him but just seemed odd to me. And happened often enough to grab my attention.
His one asset is he has a rocket arm. But, that's like saying a golf pro can bang it a long way off the tee. There's a lot more important attributes to being a QB than a big arm.
I know I'll get flamed for this but Mett has massive bust written all over him. Glacially slow with zero pocket presence. He locks on to the receiver he's going to throw to pre-snap and doesn't show the consistency to go elsewhere if that option isn't open. He also seems to have almost zero social or leadership skills. He was rarely seen on the sidelines interacting with his offensive teammates between series. (Admittedly, that's dependent on when the cameras choose to focus on him but just seemed odd to me. And happened often enough to grab my attention.
His one asset is he has a rocket arm. But, that's like saying a golf pro can bang it a long way off the tee. There's a lot more important attributes to being a QB than a big arm.
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:05 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Agree that Mett goes first. Measurables are off the chart. He'll tear it at at the combines and "experts" like danielson are creaming all over him.
I know I'll get flamed for this but Mett has massive bust written all over him. Glacially slow with zero pocket presence. He locks on to the receiver he's going to throw to pre-snap and doesn't show the consistency to go elsewhere if that option isn't open. He also seems to have almost zero social or leadership skills. He was rarely seen on the sidelines interacting with his offensive teammates between series. (Admittedly, that's dependent on when the cameras choose to focus on him but just seemed odd to me. And happened often enough to grab my attention.
His one asset is he has a rocket arm. But, that's like saying a golf pro can bang it a long way off the tee. There's a lot more important attributes to being a QB than a big arm.
You hit the nail on the head. Some team may fall in love with his arm though. Then again there is a reason those teams always pick at the same spots. Another negative on Mett that you alluded to but didn't bring up was his past. The NFL really digs into the background check nowadays. That anti-social behavior could be a part of that.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
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AJ is better than Jason Cambell.
Pro scouts will disagree.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:15 am to Snakebucket
JFF
AJ
METT
Murray
AJ
METT
Murray
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:18 am to BayouBengals03
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and has proven he can win games for his team (despite the game manager talk).
When?
The only time he has done that in his career is against A&M this year maybe but we've seen that pretty much any offense can have their way with that D.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:21 am to RandySavage
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When?
The only time he has done that in his career is against A&M this year maybe but we've seen that pretty much any offense can have their way with that D.
AJ Derangement syndrome is apparently contagious among the LSU fanbase.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:23 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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No one really talks about it, but in terms of football IQ, I can only think of Andrew Luck as being better coming out in recent years. Again, talking football IQ and the ability to take command of an offense. Not talking arm, size, etc.
Yea he's way smarter than all those black guys.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:24 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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It isn't wrong.
If Aaron Murray only had to lead his team to 17-20 points to win every game his record would be better than AJ's. Murray > AJ and, in college, it isn't really close.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:26 am to Libertyabides71
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AJ Derangement syndrome is apparently contagious among the LSU fanbase.
1. Not an LSU fan.
2. Your inability to respond to the question is telling.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:30 am to RandySavage
It is like I am in a bizarro world and its all of a sudden Thanksgiving 2011 all over again.
Did AJ not make throws in tight windows against LSU's man coverage in the 2012 BCS championship game and win MVP?
Did AJ not lead a game winning drive in Tiger Stadium last year?
Did AJ not throw deep to beat Georgia in Atlanta?
Did he not throw for 3 TD's against LSU this year?
Did AJ not make throws in tight windows against LSU's man coverage in the 2012 BCS championship game and win MVP?
Did AJ not lead a game winning drive in Tiger Stadium last year?
Did AJ not throw deep to beat Georgia in Atlanta?
Did he not throw for 3 TD's against LSU this year?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:33 am to RandySavage
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If Aaron Murray only had to lead his team to 17-20 points to win every game his record would be better than AJ's. Murray > AJ and, in college, it isn't really close.
Alabama is right at 40 ppg Scoring offense this year.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:34 am to Libertyabides71
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Did AJ not make throws in tight windows against LSU's man coverage in the 2012 BCS championship game and win MVP?
Has any QB ever thrown for 0 TD's in their hallmark game? He couldn't even lead his offense to a TD until a 40 yard run in junk time despite wonderful field position the entire game thanks to the defense.
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Did AJ not lead a game winning drive in Tiger Stadium last year?
Sweet screen pass, what a winner. AJ was terrible in that game.
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Did he not throw for 3 TD's against LSU this year?
Did bama not run for about 8 yards a carry the entire 2nd half?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:35 am to LSU=Champions
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but he has that innate ability to win.
He plays for Alabama.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:36 am to RandySavage
So literally AJ accomplishes nothing in your eyes. Are you Katherine's ex or something?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 7:37 am to ugasickem
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He plays for Alabama.
Since when is playing on a good team ever been held against anyone in college football?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:15 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Agree that Mett goes first. Measurables are off the chart. He'll tear it at at the combines and "experts" like danielson are creaming all over him.
I know I'll get flamed for this but Mett has massive bust written all over him. Glacially slow with zero pocket presence. He locks on to the receiver he's going to throw to pre-snap and doesn't show the consistency to go elsewhere if that option isn't open. He also seems to have almost zero social or leadership skills. He was rarely seen on the sidelines interacting with his offensive teammates between series. (Admittedly, that's dependent on when the cameras choose to focus on him but just seemed odd to me. And happened often enough to grab my attention.
His one asset is he has a rocket arm. But, that's like saying a golf pro can bang it a long way off the tee. There's a lot more important attributes to being a QB than a big arm.
Good points. I can see an argument for the above.
Let's look at it from a different angle which I think most scouts are.
In 2012 Mett was just an Arm with no coaching. It showed badly. Insert coaching.
In a single off season Mett is much more refined. He is more accurate, smarter with the ball and "started" to develop a presence in controlling the O.
Mett CLEARLY is not as seasoned as AJ or Murray on that front, but I think we all know why.
So the conclusion that I have is, Mett has the higher upside but needs "more" coaching than AJ and Murray..
Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:16 am to Libertyabides71
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So literally AJ accomplishes nothing in your eyes
No, he's a fine QB. But there are 20 other QBs in college football that could do the exact same thing. Greg McElroy, for God's sake, was able to do something AJ hasn't done.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:27 am to Old Sarge
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The picks and decision making will put him below most other NFL ready QB's. Tebow, RG3, Kapernick, all proving that being a baller and having a winning attitude isn't enough.
Please remove him from this list. 2nd year player starting halfway through the season and reaches the superbowl doesn't qualify?
Ok sir.Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:30 am to Snakebucket
JFF (Someone will reach mid to late 1st)
McCarron (2nd rounder)
Mett (late 2nd)
Murray (late 3rd)
McCarron (2nd rounder)
Mett (late 2nd)
Murray (late 3rd)
Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:38 am to Snakebucket
If Mett wasn't so damn slow he'd be top5-10 pick.
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